I am watching Ellen talking to Hillary on my Tivo right now, and she just said this. Barack, I believe the ball is now in your court.

=================

Hillary Clinton talks rights for gay couples on Ellen DeGeneres show

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Friday, April 4th 2008, 11:11 AM

WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton told Ellen DeGeneres that she will work to ensure that same-sex couples such as the talk show host and her partner Portia de Rossi are treated fairly.

"I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that people like you and Portia and others have a chance to have, you know, rights to be able to go to the hospital, to inherit property, to make sure that you can list somebody as a beneficiary on an insurance policy," Clinton said in an interview to air Monday on "The Ellen DeGeneres Show."

"That's all we want is to be fair," DeGeneres responded. "I like it. I like it."

Clinton has said she would defend gay rights as president and eliminate disparities for same-sex couples in federal law, including immigration and tax policy.

Hillary has said that she will NOT repeal all of DOMA. Barack has said that he would eliminate ALL of DOMA. The last time the gay community was promised something by the Clintons, we got DADT and DOMA (in some areas that's called RAPED).

__________________

yeah - but she's also a staunch defender of DOMA, which rather brings her other (IMO disingenuous) liberal views into focus. Pretty worthless. She's going to roll back all the discriminatory laws - except the one that makes them all legal?! Bah. The Clintons are mere mouthpieces to tolerance. I started out as a Hillary supporter - but have completely wiped her off my list. If she gets the nom, I'll vote for McCain - really. At least I know where he stands - Clinton talks out both sides of her mouth. Obama is much more honest about his feelings.

edited to add: yeah - what debateman said!

Congratulations on having some interested candidates anyway!
But just wanted to ask what Obama does say specifically? If you follow his campaign more closely than I have (any of the candidates) lately, you may have a glint of wisdom to share about why exactly you are voting for him. I think he gives a great speech [understatement] but then I'm left wondering where he does stand on anything besides the war and even that is a little vague for me.

__________________
Frugal tip: To keep potatoes from budding, place an apple in the bag with the potatoes.

How to Fold a Shirt

Salty's Blog

He is in favor of giving all the rights of marriage to gay people, but reserving the actual word 'marriage' for the mating of men and women.

He is in favor of getting rid of DOMA so that the federal government has to give recognition to the gay couples in states that have legalized same sex unions.

The thing is, DOMA keeps ANY recognition of gay unions banned by the federal government. So keeping DOMA is another bullshit way of getting around gay bans.

Hillary wants to support "gay rights" but won't get rid of DOMA...which is essentially saying that you support civil rights for blacks, but are against legal integration of schools, businesses and public facilities.

watch this:

Thanks for all the good info, everyone!

I didn't need another reason to support Obama, but now I have one, and a very good one at that.

Excellent...

When Iran announces they have completed enrichment procedures, I need my president to reject DOMA...

__________________
"You get the respect that you give" - cnredd

Is he in favor of changing the root cause of our present economy situation? The policies made the past 30+ years which helped the rich and big businesses while slamming the small business person and taking from the middle class? And what is his position on Political Appointees?

You have legitimate questions.

Perhaps you should start a new thread?

My reply was a direct response to the thread topic.

These are not exactly mutually exclusive concepts here.


I'm kinda hoping for a president who could handle more than one thing at a time, myself.