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Old 12-11-2019, 04:35 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the left push all the uninhibited sex things back in the sixties? Didn't they tell women to get out there and spread their legs and have fun?

Do you suppose this also had something to do with Roe vs Wade being passed?

Since then the left has continuously harangued Republicans when ever they talked about abstinence. They answered with "Don't listen to the right! Go out there and fu*k your brains out, we made it legal to kill those pesky little babies that you will have"

I think this stuff was all pushed by people like Bill Clinton, Jeffy Epstien, and Hollywood. They just all wanted indiscriminate sex with as many women as possible, and they legislated the means to do so.
To be honest Dave1 is partially correct. roe v Wade was a huge relief for philandering, irresponsible men. But puleeze do not categorize all of us that way.

Women want equality, then so be it. Stop being victims of bad men. If you can't, at least stop blaming, punishing, regulating, taxing all men. Or else admit you are the weaker sex. Cannot have it both ways.

ROE V Wade open the doors to having it both ways.

Back to the subject at hand, Abortion on demand of the woman, ignores the rights of the "FATHER" and punishes the innocent child. It gives every woman in America an unimaginable power she does not share with the father. Or the State. No how no way that is equality under the law.

And yet Dave1 puts the oneness on the father. Without question.
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Old 12-11-2019, 04:43 PM
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[QUOTE=FrancSevin;981671]To be honest Dave1 is partially correct. roe v Wade was a huge relief for philandering, irresponsible men. But puleeze do not categorize all of us that way.

Women want equality, then so be it. Stop being victims of bad men. If you can't, at least stop blaming, punishing, regulating, taxing all men. Or else admit you are the weaker sex. Cannot have it both ways.

ROE V Wade open the doors to having it both ways.

Back to the subject at hand, Abortion on demand of the woman, ignores the rights of the "FATHER" and punishes the innocent child. It gives every woman in America an unimaginable power she does not share with the father. Or the State. No how no way that is equality under the law.

And yet Dave1 puts the oneness on the father. Without question.[/QUOTE]

I think Davey looks at women as feeble and weak, and not able to say NO to a man. He is probably one of those guys that told his girlfriend, "If you really love me, you will have sex with me".
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Old 12-11-2019, 04:48 PM
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You never hear society talk about the women out there that entrap men by getting pregnant on purpose. I had a girlfriend that secretly went off the pill, luckily she didn't get pregnant. I had to stop seeing her after that. All trust was lost.
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Old 12-11-2019, 05:05 PM
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To be honest Dave1 is partially correct. roe v Wade was a huge relief for philandering, irresponsible men. But puleeze do not categorize all of us that way.

Women want equality, then so be it. Stop being victims of bad men. If you can't, at least stop blaming, punishing, regulating, taxing all men. Or else admit you are the weaker sex. Cannot have it both ways.

ROE V Wade open the doors to having it both ways.

Back to the subject at hand, Abortion on demand of the woman, ignores the rights of the "FATHER" and punishes the innocent child. It gives every woman in America an unimaginable power she does not share with the father. Or the State. No how no way that is equality under the law.

And yet Dave1 puts the oneness on the father. Without question.[/QUOTE]

I think Davey looks at women as feeble and weak, and not able to say NO to a man. He is probably one of those guys that told his girlfriend, "If you really love me, you will have sex with me".
I wouldn't presume Dave1 has a girl friend(s) or how he may have treated them. But clearly he has little understanding, much less respect, that women who demand equality, must also accept responsibility for their decisions.

I have several young bucks working for me with 3 to5 kids by as many "girlfriends." These guys make our minimum wage, are generally irresponsible to their employer as well. But brag about how much they love 'dem kids."
We get a sheriff visits with warrants for support and such. But the women they impregnated aren't much better. If the guy is worthless, shiftless and unaccountable, why would you create a child with him. For sex, for affection. When he beats you why do you stay? Why even let him in the door? Much less your body? If you cannot stop him, how can you claim equality?"

I married a virgin. We had one child because that is all our meager incomes could manage. We practiced rhythm. No birth control pills. She didn't sleep around and neither did I. I'm not bragging. But neither am I a saint. The temptations are there. the government makes it easy to succumb. It's called being responsible.

Roe v Wade allowed irresponsible men, and women, an easy legal out of their dilemma by making murder of the infant her "right." The father doesn't even have to feel guilt for his choice here. He puts that burden on the woman.

He's of the hook
She can move on with him, or another guy
The infant dies.

How is that Equality?
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Sounds to me like you believe that women do not give consent, therefore all sex is rape.
It sounds to me like you invent all sorts of non sense that was never typed....
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Up to 20 weeks, with the agreement of the father, abortion should be legal.
Both mother and father should have to pay for the procedure and any complications.
After week 20, only if there is a serious medical risk to the life of the mother. And this should be covered by insurance.
The pro-choice mantra is "my body, my choice". They seem to forget that there is another body involved, and they are giving it no choice.
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I am pro-life.Meaning I oppose elective abortion being legal.The only way abortion should be legal is if multiple doctors(who are not abortionists) confirm that carrying the child to 50% viability will cause the mother the lose her life or if the baby is going to be born dead,without a brain or some other valid medical reason for terminating the life of a unborn child.
or one gynecologist who says the pregnancy is outside the womb.
usually, the tubes and womb are scraped.
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or one gynecologist who says the pregnancy is outside the womb.
usually, the tubes and womb are scraped.
You are referring to a "Tubal Pregnancy". These pregnancies cannot come to fruition and will most likely kill the mother if not addressed. This is NOT what is being discussed. Buy nice try at derailing the thread with more nonsense.
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You never hear society talk about the women out there that entrap men by getting pregnant on purpose. I had a girlfriend that secretly went off the pill, luckily she didn't get pregnant. I had to stop seeing her after that. All trust was lost.
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It sounds to me like you invent all sorts of non sense that was never typed....
I can read between the lines..
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