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Old 05-31-2019, 05:02 AM
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Default Louisiana governor signs 6-week abortion ban into law

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Louisiana has become the latest state to have a controversial abortion ban signed into law.

The Louisiana House of Representatives passed the bill on Wednesday, sending it to the governor's desk for signature in order for it to become law. Gov. John Bel Edwards, a Democrat, has been vocal in his support for an abortion ban and signed the bill Thursday afternoon, his press office confirmed to ABC News.

After the state House passed the bill Wednesday, Edwards released a statement defending his more progressive work during his time in office, while also standing by his choice to sign the bill.
he might have to turn in his progressive card after this abomination.

i guess not wanting to kill the most innocent and vulnerable among isnít just some right wing idea.

a society that doesnít respect life at itís earliest and most vulnerable stage ought not be surprised when life isnít respected at any stage.
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In Missouri, the last Planned Parenthood operating in the state, is supposed to close today. We applaud Louisiana for it's stand for the rights of the unborn.


Here's an irony for you to ponder, Disney, who makes millions of dollars off entertainment for children, has threatened to boycott the State of Louisiana because they have now banned infant murder.
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In Missouri, the last Planned Parenthood operating in the state, is supposed to close today. We applaud Louisiana for it's stand for the rights of the unborn.


Here's an irony for you to ponder, Disney, who makes millions of dollars off entertainment for children, has threatened to boycott the State of Louisiana because they have now banned infant murder.
Not infant, it's the unborn children that are being slaughtered thanks to an imperial decree by the SCOTUS. You'd think a giant corporation like Disney would recognize the danger to their profits in killing future customers in the womb but having senior management continue to be welcomed to the right cocktail parties is more important than the shareholders interests. Who says greedy capitalists will do anything for a buck.
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Not infant, it's the unborn children that are being slaughtered thanks to an imperial decree by the SCOTUS. You'd think a giant corporation like Disney would recognize the danger to their profits in killing future customers in the womb but having senior management continue to be welcomed to the right cocktail parties is more important than the shareholders interests. Who says greedy capitalists will do anything for a buck.
Some people discern between "infant" and "fetus" because a fetus does not have personhood. I intentionally make no distinction.

If or when our SCOTUS recognizes the mistake of Roe V Wade, they will have to assign personhood. If for no other reason than to clarify legal confusions over fetal and hereditary rights which, in most cases, have nothing to do with Abortion.
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According to the press, Democrats pass "laws"...

Republicans pass "controversial laws"...

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According to the press, Democrats pass "laws"...

Republicans pass "controversial laws"...

Radical abortion bans should be considered controversial.
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Radical abortion bans should be considered controversial.
I agree.
You are right on that. After all, abortion is radical. We should ban it.
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Radical abortion bans should be considered controversial.
You are so right, dissent from imperial decrees by the SCOTUS should be marginalized as too controversial for review. The so-called right to abortion fabricated from peering into the "penumbra" like the ancient Oracle of Delphi is a super duper precedent beyond inspection by mortal men.
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UNCONSTITUTIONAL

Nothing more really needs to be said. This is a Republican attack on women, especially poor women, seeking to deny them the fundamental "Right of Self" that's the origin for all of our enumerated Unalienable/Inalienable rights protected by our Constitution .
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You are so right, dissent from imperial decrees by the SCOTUS should be marginalized as too controversial for review. The so-called right to abortion fabricated from peering into the "penumbra" like the ancient Oracle of Delphi is a super duper precedent beyond inspection by mortal men.
Roe v Wade has often been cited as an extreme case of judicial activism by the Supreme Court but there's a catch to that. Roe v Wade actually produced two decisions - one is an originalist (conservative) opinion based upon textualism and original intent and the second is a non-originalist opinion based upon pragmatism and unenumerated natural rights .

The "originalist" decision was that the Constitution only protects the rights of the person, personhood begins at birth, no other person's rights were being violated when a woman has an abortion, therefore all laws restricting abortion are unconstitutional. Reading the text of the Constitution and knowing that the founders understood that personhood originated at birth (as it had throughout recorded history) there's no other conclusion that could be reached.

As written the Constitution prohibits any laws restricting abortion. That's the "conservative" originalist interpretation of the Constitution.

Then, based upon pragmatic arguments and natural rights, the Court issued it's highly controversial "judicial activist" decision. The Court invented the "potential person" that's not found anywhere in the Constitution, and that the original intent of the Constitution never even considered, and granted limited "potential rights" to the fetus at the point of natural viability. Once the fetus could live outside of the womb as a person then pragmatically it had the rights of the person with the exception of those cases where there was a conflict with the rights of the woman.

Unwritten in the Constitution and unsupported by original intent the power of government to impose limited restrictions on abortion when viability is reached based upon "potential rights" for the "potential person" was a highly activist decision based upon a non-originalist (liberal) interpretation of the Constitution.

A "conservative" court could strike down the activist "non-originalist" decision that allowed government to impose restrictions upon the woman's abortion rights at the viability of the fetus but neither a "conservative" or a "liberal" court can strike down the "originalist" decision that the woman is the only person and that any infringement upon her rights is a violation of the Constitution.

Only a "Republican" court could disregard the Constitution completely and strike down the Constitutionally protected Rights of the Woman in Roe v Wade.
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