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And just when you thought that Gov Cuomo in New York held the most extreme views on abortion, the VA Gov Ralph Northam is trying to out crazy him.

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Quote: “If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

He’s offering this to make the case that the new bill is less draconian than its right-wing critics claim. Yes, he allows, there will be situations where a child is delivered alive and then killed on the table on mom’s instructions — the logical end point of liberal abortion laws, as pro-lifers have warned about for years. But it’ll be “kept comfortable.” Why, they might even revive it if it isn’t breathing when it’s born, like saving the life of a death-row inmate during a suicide attempt so that he can be properly executed the next day.
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And what would the mother and the physician be about? Why whether or not to abort the baby after it is born.

Does the left have any morals? We treat research animals better than unborn children. And now if the Dems in Virginia have their way, they will allow abortion even after birth. This is sick.
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And just when you thought that Gov Cuomo in New York held the most extreme views on abortion, the VA Gov Ralph Northam is trying to out crazy him.



https://hotair.com/archives/2019/01/...d-theyre-born/

And what would the mother and the physician be about? Why whether or not to abort the baby after it is born.

Does the left have any morals? We treat research animals better than unborn children. And now if the Dems in Virginia have their way, they will allow abortion even after birth. This is sick.
Northam is just another liberal trotting out the typical talking points. He follows Mcauliffe, the Clinton's good buddie who among other things insured Hillary's win by putting thousands of felons back on the voting rolls. TMac tried to rescind all concealed carry reciprocal agreements. We got there largely due the Republicans fielding back to back terrible corrupt candidates because it was their turn.

He's also trotted out the usual "common sense" gun law proposals.

Fortunately Republicans hold a 2 + 2 advantage in the legislature, so these bills are not likely to pass.
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And just when you thought that Gov Cuomo in New York held the most extreme views on abortion, the VA Gov Ralph Northam is trying to out crazy him.



https://hotair.com/archives/2019/01/...d-theyre-born/

And what would the mother and the physician be about? Why whether or not to abort the baby after it is born.

Does the left have any morals? We treat research animals better than unborn children. And now if the Dems in Virginia have their way, they will allow abortion even after birth. This is sick.

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Yup, that's our governor.

I've no position on abortion. But this and the NY bill are not abortion. This is murder.
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It's not human unless it is born but,,; late term abortion provide more viable "Human" organs to sell.

So can we stop worry about morality ??/,,,let's talk money…..
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Yup, that's our governor.

I've no position on abortion. But this and the NY bill are not abortion. This is murder.
This is a specific murder...Infanticide...
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Genocide by any other name is still murder.
A nation that eats it's young, for convenience, is not long to last as a good place to live.
The USA is right up there in the good company of China and North Korea.
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America is joined only by Canada, North Korea, and China.

It’s easy to become inured to the state of abortion in the United States, but every so often someone sends a shock to the system.

In a new book about the history of Roe, Abuse of Discretion, lawyer Clarke Forsythe combs through the historical record of the Supreme Court’s decision, from case files to personal papers, to show exactly how pell-mell the verdict was. And in the course of all this he highlights how out-of-the-norm America’s abortion regime is.

Here’s Forsythe:

The United States is an outlier when it comes to the scope of the abortion “right.” The United States is one of approximately ten nations (of 195) that allow abortion after fourteen weeks of gestation. The others are: Canada, China, Great Britain, North Korea, the Netherlands, Singapore, Sweden, Western Australia, and Vietnam. When it comes to allowing abortion for any reason after viability, however, the United States is joined only by Canada, North Korea, and China. The United States got into this situation because after the second round of arguments in Roe and Doe, the Justices abruptly decided to expand the abortion right they were creating to fetal viability—and then beyond. For forty years, this abrupt decision has had profound implications for late-term abortions, live-birth abortions, and women’s health.

To be sure, many nations disapprove of abortion de jure, yet allow it de facto. But this is a distinction with a difference because it shows that the culture still has moral bearings, even if it frequently sets them aside in the name of expediency

Evil is not made good just because a majority approves it.
Remember this the next time a Progressive tells us "it's about the Children.
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Genocide by any other name is still murder.
A nation that eats it's young, for convenience, is not long to last as a good place to live.
The USA is right up there in the good company of China and North Korea.
Jonathan V. Last
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America is joined only by Canada, North Korea, and China.

It’s easy to become inured to the state of abortion in the United States, but every so often someone sends a shock to the system.

In a new book about the history of Roe, Abuse of Discretion, lawyer Clarke Forsythe combs through the historical record of the Supreme Court’s decision, from case files to personal papers, to show exactly how pell-mell the verdict was. And in the course of all this he highlights how out-of-the-norm America’s abortion regime is.

Here’s Forsythe:

The United States is an outlier when it comes to the scope of the abortion “right.” The United States is one of approximately ten nations (of 195) that allow abortion after fourteen weeks of gestation. The others are: Canada, China, Great Britain, North Korea, the Netherlands, Singapore, Sweden, Western Australia, and Vietnam. When it comes to allowing abortion for any reason after viability, however, the United States is joined only by Canada, North Korea, and China. The United States got into this situation because after the second round of arguments in Roe and Doe, the Justices abruptly decided to expand the abortion right they were creating to fetal viability—and then beyond. For forty years, this abrupt decision has had profound implications for late-term abortions, live-birth abortions, and women’s health.

To be sure, many nations disapprove of abortion de jure, yet allow it de facto. But this is a distinction with a difference because it shows that the culture still has moral bearings, even if it frequently sets them aside in the name of expediency

Evil is not made good just because a majority approves it.
Remember this the next time a Progressive tells us "it's about the Children.
I may have to use that quote if that would be ok with you. That hits the nail on the head on so many topics.
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I may have to use that quote if that would be ok with you. That hits the nail on the head on so many topics.
Of course you may quote me on it. However I para-phrased it as a condensed version of Booker T Washington who said it better.


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