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Old 08-23-2018, 12:12 PM
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I note for the viewing audience how Foundit just moved the goalposts as he often does. He brought up SHARIA LAW, to which I pointed out the glaring contrast of that versus what I was talking about, then he replies by switching to Muslims in America who DON'T have sharia law. LOL



Aaaaaand, yet another moving of goalposts: no one was talking about the 'vast majority of cases'. Precedent doesn't require "vast majority" for it to be legal precedent. None of this disproves the fact that there IS now precedent with this case, no matter how much you now want to backtrack and pretend it's not.



well I'm glad you've changed from your initial claim. Of coruse, again, even if this is now your CURRENT position, no one has argued that it would be relevant to any "vast majority" of cases.



That's ONE issue of meaningful precedent, but certainly not "THE" meaningful one, as if there is only one. Another (which is the one i brought up) is the one that actually pertains to the RULING: that of cases brought with bias against religion. Hopefully litigants will think twice about doing that now that they know SCOTUS ruled against them based on that prejudice.
Don't worry Joe, nobody and I mean nobody fails to notice the same old same old from fi66. But I wonder, what happened to the "retired LEO" sock puppet that was moonlighting the same approach to post as fi66 and was so prolific in his temporary absence?

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Don't worry Joe, nobody and I mean nobody fails to notice the same old same old from fi66. But I wonder, what happened to the "retired LEO" sock puppet that was moonlighting the same approach to post as fi66 and was so prolific in his temporary absence?
As the old song used to go, oh I wonder wonder wonder.........
Yet again, Schochite jumps on a thread for personal comments and no attempt to discuss the topic.
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Utah’s medical marijuana ballot measure would violate Mormons’ religious beliefs,
opponents say in new court filing, which initiative supporters call a ‘Hail Mary’



https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics...cal-marijuana/
However, that particular case was “decided on a technicality;” specifically that “the Colorado Civil Rights Commission was unfairly biased against Phillips.” As most sane people and the Court acknowledged, “the ruling did not directly give people a license to discriminate against LGBTQ people based on their religious belief.”

As bad as refusing to provide a service based on objections borne of religion is, and it is vile, the idea of using religious freedom to prevent an entire state’s voters from exercising their right to weigh in on a legal ballot measure is beyond the pale; but it should have been expected. This monstrous idea of using religious freedom as a cudgel against non-compliance in America’s lurch toward theocracy has grown to the point that maybe now the people will comprehend that no American is safe.
https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...igious-freedom

If there would be such a "religious" right to refusal to rent (as described in the article), then that specific aspect would be imposed upon. Not the ballot initiative.

And even then, attempting to quote that ruling completely ignores the fact that the ruling involved was resolved based on the specific case situation whereby that specific case was shown to have prejudice against that specific shop owner. That ruling did not provide any sort of broad precedent, and that ruling's statements explicitly acknowledged the legitimacy of that type of underlying law itself.

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