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If it's private, how would an adoption agency know?
Just my humble opinion, but maybe the LGBTQ(alphabet soup) folks might want to think about NOT shoving their private lives into other peoples faces. Maybe they might want to think about NOT making their sexuality the forefront of who they are.
Ya know, keeping it private.
When an application asks questions, such as applicants name, on average, a male based name will indicate a male based applicant, and a female name the same.

You are not applying common sense here.... regardless of weather they have outward characteristics that some may interpret as 'gay' or not, it will become obvious during the interview process. It doesn't mean they are shoving it in someone's face.
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ROFLMAO!
No. That's not what happened at all.
But of course, it's a convenient claim to make up.

History of Same Sex Adoption



While you may keep your personal life a secret, address what I actually said.

First off, how big is your office.
Currently about 1200 people, last job it was about 3000.
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Secondly, do you know of people who are married in your office?
Some. I don't make it a habit of asking coworkers their marital status because i'm not in the habit of dating coworkers.
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Do you know of people who have kids in your office?
Some. Not because I asked though.
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These are the things that normal people discuss as part of normal office discussions.
Normal by your definition.


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So the fact that I know which people are married to the opposite gender and have kids just makes me smart then?
Aren't you glad I didn't say it made you stupid?

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Would you chastise Jennifer who has stated she's married to Mark and has two kids for not being more private?
Would you have the same treatment when I talk about the male name of my partner?
I don't chastise any coworkers for their personal relationship status because I don't give a damn about their personal relationship status, that's their business, not mine.
I also don't know which coworkers have guns, which ones may or may not have had an abortion, nor their political affiliation. They also don't know that information about me.

In the past 34 years I've had 3 employers, of all the people I've met at work in those 34 years I have two friends that I met through work. Lots of acquaintances but only two friends developed from work interaction. That's just the way I roll.
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When an application asks questions, such as applicants name, on average, a male based name will indicate a male based applicant, and a female name the same.

You are not applying common sense here.... regardless of weather they have outward characteristics that some may interpret as 'gay' or not, it will become obvious during the interview process. It doesn't mean they are shoving it in someone's face.
I was referring more to the behavior these days of the the LGBTQ folk to insist that others know that they are LGBTQ. See Bruce Jenner for an example.

What gender are the following names?
Chris
Jordan
Kelly
Cameron
Pat
Alex
Bailey
Jesse
Taylor
Robin
The list is almost endless.
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I was referring more to the behavior these days of the the LGBTQ folk to insist that others know that they are LGBTQ. See Bruce Jenner for an example.

What gender are the following names?
Chris
Jordan
Kelly
Cameron
Pat
Alex
Bailey
Jesse
Taylor
Robin
The list is almost endless.
Of course there are those who embellish their lifestyle with dramatics - just as some heterosexuals do. Guys who make a point of coming across as a 'manly man' (did you hear my voice drop when I said that? ) Women who make their cleavage and butts focus points, or gays who have more swish in their walk than Gina Lollobrigida, or lesbians that look like they could lift your car without a jack. (Sorry for the stereotyping)

As to names, yes some are not gender specific, but several that you listed are nicknames.... Chris is usually short for Christopher or Christine, for example. If you are filling out paper such as an adoption application, you would likely use your 'legal' name. Let's not get into the spelling differences between the non-gender specific names either.

My own LEGAL first name, is most people's nickname, and in fact, I was named after a male ancestor. I've spent many years explaining my name isn't short for anything.

Bottom line, people do not have to be putting their sexual orientation in someone's 'face', for most people to figure it out one way or another. And it really shouldn't make a difference if they otherwise qualify to adopt.
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What gender are the following names?
Chris
Jordan
Kelly
Cameron
Pat
Alex
Bailey
Jesse
Taylor
Robin
The list is almost endless.
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Currently about 1200 people, last job it was about 3000.
Some. I don't make it a habit of asking coworkers their marital status because i'm not in the habit of dating coworkers.
I never said anything about "asking" their marital status.
The point is it comes up in normal conversation.

example:
Bob: How was your weekend?
Wayne: It was good. We went to my in-law's house for my wife's Dad's birthday.
etc, etc, etc...


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Some. Not because I asked though.
You put yourself off on a "asking" tangent.
I'm not talking about that for office knowledge.


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Normal by your definition.
Normal as in every office I've ever been in.
And when I point this out over the years, you are the first person who has tried to contradict me on this. But even then you are losing the big picture and now trying to fixate on whether "you asked" which is irrelevant to the fact that these things easily come out without "throwing it in people's faces"...


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I don't chastise any coworkers for their personal relationship status because I don't give a damn about their personal relationship status, that's their business, not mine.
No, no, no, no...
That is not what I said.

I asked if you would chastise Jennifer FOR STATING she's married to Mark and has two kids, because she's not being more private.
That's the point of all this.
You're whining about gays shoving it in people's faces while failing to appreciate that in the vast majority of social discussion situations we are doing exactly the same normal things that straight people do...
We talk about our lives and how our families are part of our lives.
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I was referring more to the behavior these days of the the LGBTQ folk to insist that others know that they are LGBTQ. See Bruce Jenner for an example.
You're fixating on the extreme to ignore the typical situation...

On the subject of adoption, they don't just toss kids at prospective parents without asking questions.
They ask for people's names. Social security numbers. Genders.
They do background checks.
They ask about who else is in the household. They get their information as well.
Who else will be caring for the children. Who will be caring for the children while you are at work...

Your statement about adoption agencies not knowing unless gays told them is really missing the mark...


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There are times when some people throw out links which they have not read and have no interest in discussing.
Too often it's a waste of other people's time...

A quick check of the first claim I noted in your article proves it a lie...
The truth:[indent]The American Civil Liberties Union and ACLU of Michigan today filed a lawsuit in federal district court challenging Michigan’s practice of permitting state-contracted child placement agencies to reject qualified same-sex couples based on the agencies’ religious beliefs.
The lawsuit was filed against the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services and the Michigan Children’s Services Agency on behalf of families turned away from child placement agencies because of religious objections to same-sex relationships, and Michigan taxpayers whose money is going toward funding these agencies.[/quote]
https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-chall...er-care-system

You'll note the words "STATE-CONTRACTED" there?
Funny how the heritage article neglected to admit that key important fact...
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