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Old 12-05-2017, 07:13 PM
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Incredibly average report...

"Threats" to anyone or anything are at an all-time high considering social media and anonymous attacks...

I imagine "Threats to (insert org/group.individual here)" are reaching/surpassing record highs with few exceptions...
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Some people have chosen FOR THEMSELVES to not have an abortion.
When more of that happens, that IS society becoming more and more pro-life.
The only thing you "documented" are views regarding LAWS.
And even LAWS are moving more and more pro-life on state levels.
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:04 PM
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When more of that happens, that IS society becoming more and more pro-life.
Again, you don't seem to grasp what most pro-choice people feel about abortion.
It's about the choice being available for those who choose.
It does not include any desire that people have to or should choose abortion.

Again, the mantra is: Safe, Legal and Rare.


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The only thing you "documented" are views regarding LAWS.
And even LAWS are moving more and more pro-life on state levels.

Some states have implemented UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws which were then thrown out.
Most recent example:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/u...aw-ruling.html
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Again, you don't seem to grasp what most pro-choice people feel about abortion.
It's about the choice being available for those who choose.
It does not include any desire that people have to or should choose abortion.

Again, the mantra is: Safe, Legal and Rare.
In no way in this thread did I say otherwise, or question how pro-choicers feel about abortion. So examine your motivations for being bothered enough to take issue with me about what I said. Once again ... responding to something you WANT me to have said rather than what I ACTUALLY said.

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Some states have implemented UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws which were then thrown out.
Most recent example:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/u...aw-ruling.html
What a vast understatement of the REAL situation.
Here's a more honest and real report on more pro-life state laws in the last few years.

Roe v. Wade anniversary: US states pass 318 pro-life laws since 2010 | The Independent
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In no way in this thread did I say otherwise, or question how pro-choicers feel about abortion.
Why do you resort to such mindless retorts?
In no way in this thread did I allege you said otherwise.

NOW CAN YOU ACTUALLY DISCUSS THE POINT MADE???


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So examine your motivations for being bothered enough to take issue with me about what I said.
Gawd, Joe...
I am pointing out we have two separate focuses.
The fact that YOU CONFUSE THAT as "being bothered" is mildly amusing, but more of an indication on you...


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Once again ... responding to something you WANT me to have said rather than what I ACTUALLY said.
Same back atcha...


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What a vast understatement of the REAL situation.
Here's a more honest and real report on more pro-life state laws in the last few years.
Roe v. Wade anniversary: US states pass 318 pro-life laws since 2010 | The Independent
Like I said, there have been a lot of unconstitutional laws passed.

A better article would have also listed how many have been struck down as unconstitutional. Over the years, I have posted a variety of such examples, predicting them as unconstitutional, only to be proven right over time.
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And since you weigh in opinion on a variety of issues, like gun control, my advice to you is, don't buy a gun.
See, anyone can play that game.
Unfortunately for you, discussion and having an opinion on a topic doesn't require the prerequisite that it only be a personal issue.
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One is either pro-murder or pro-life. Being pro-choice makes one jejune.
I was thinking about the title of this thread, and substituted the word "murder" for "abortion".

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Maybe I should use HJ's tactic and proclaim that there hasn't been one right-winger to condemn threats against abortion clinics on this thread...
Unlike his lie, I would actually be correct in that assessment...

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One is either pro-murder or pro-life. Being pro-choice makes one jejune.
I was thinking about the title of this thread, and substituted the word "murder" for "abortion".
Some on the pro-choice side try to paint the anti-abortion side as being misogynists who want to restrict choice from women that make them less dependent on men.
Some on the anti-abortion side try to paint pro-choice as murder happy / money greedy.

Quite frankly, I feel those two segments should be locked in a room so they can yell at each other for as long as they like because they drag intelligent discussion on the subject down...
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By that mentality, the "meat is murder" crowd can demand to compare any violence they may perpetrate against the violence against animals for food industry.

Or with guns, the gun rights people refuse to acknowledge the amount of murder and mayhem they are responsible for...
I thought mikeyy had it locked down back in about February, but here comes founditt at the eleventh hour.
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One is either pro-murder or pro-life. Being pro-choice makes one jejune.
I was thinking about the title of this thread, and substituted the word "murder" for "abortion".
So you feel that no one else has a valid opinion but you.

No, pro-choice does not make one jejune. It's called being realistic. Accepting that other people can make choices about their lives is being realistic. Attempting to demean people who support the right to make choices is jejune.

You do know what was going on prior to abortion being legal, right? Why would you think it would be any different now, if suddenly it became illegal again?
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