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Old 08-29-2017, 08:39 PM
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Friday evening, the oldest Neo-Nazi web forum on the internet went dark. Network Solutions’ decision to seize Stormfront.org’s domain comes in the wake of the Charlottesville Unite the Right (UTR) rally, which resulted in the death of Heather Heyer.

The rally was deliberately planned to bring the movement’s most recent iteration — the web-based racist “alt-right” —into the real world.

A group known as the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law filed a notice with Network Solutions on August 21, 2017, informing them that Stormfront, a website using Network Solutions’ domain registration services, violates the provision of your Acceptable Use Policy “AUP.”

A search on the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers website for stormfront.org lists the domain status as under “clientHold,” which means that the website’s managers are prevented from accessing, transferring or updating the site.

<The incident marks a renewed bout of public interest in the promulgation of far-right racist rhetoric in the digital world after Andrew Anglin, the editor and founder of the Daily Stormer, slurred Heather Heyer, who was killed in Charlottesville, as a “drain on society,” among other disparaging remarks.>

<Since the post, the Daily Stormer has been banned from multiple web hosts including GoDaddy, Google and a Russian .ru web domain.>

<Stormer webmaster Andrew “weev” Auernheimer apparently published “PunishedStormer.com” via DreamHost web hosting. This was an attempt to maintain the site on the “real web,” as opposed to the “dark web,” where the site has used an .>

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Default Re: Waning Storm: Stormfront.org Loses Its Domain

time we pulled the plug. we've been understanding up to the point of murder.
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I hate white supremacy, but I can never agree with search sites like Google banning hate sites, or ISPs trying to shut them down. Let good ideas triumph over the bad ones, and fight hate with a better message. We've let ourselves become too far removed from the words of Patrick Henry and Voltaire: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
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So how bout a child molester website?
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I hate white supremacy, but I can never agree with search sites like Google banning hate sites, or ISPs trying to shut them down. Let good ideas triumph over the bad ones, and fight hate with a better message. We've let ourselves become too far removed from the words of Patrick Henry and Voltaire: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
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So how bout a child molester website?
Apples and oranges.
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How so? Hopefully you find both groups repugnant.
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How so? Hopefully you find both groups repugnant.
Comparing free speech (a constitutional right) to child molestation (not a constitutional right) is apples and oranges.
Sad that I have to explain that simple concept to you.

I find both groups morally repugnant, one more so than the other.
One group has the constitutional right to be morally repugnant, the other does not.
Again, sad that I have to explain that simple concept to you.
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Speaking of simple. The government did not close stormfront, I think you know what the first amendment is so I wont dumb it down that far, but it isn't a constitutional issue unless the govt does it, then I would agree with you. I should have let this go for a while and you guys defend the Klanners before pointing out the flaws in your argument. anyhow, go ahead defend the Klanners.

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Comparing free speech (a constitutional right) to child molestation (not a constitutional right) is apples and oranges.
Sad that I have to explain that simple concept to you.

I find both groups morally repugnant, one more so than the other.
One group has the constitutional right to be morally repugnant, the other does not.
Again, sad that I have to explain that simple concept to you.
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So how bout a child molester website?
Surly, I get the tactic of throwing something out that everybody dislikes in order to justify something that you dislike. But it is apples and oranges. Mostly because child molesting is illegal.

The better question is whether you advocate both sides being shut down. I'm alluding to Cville for one. I find all radical groups repugnant, but that does not mean that I believe either side should be shut down.

Free speech is free speech. And popular speech does not need protection.

So let me ask you a question. How about groups advocating dead cops. How about burning looting and shooting as free speech. Pitching tent cities on private property in downtown NYC for weeks on end? Sitting in the middle of Interstates during rush hour. Are you good with that?
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