US Judge Ordered Google to Hand Over Emails Stored On Foreign Servers to FBI

foundit66 · #1 (**permalink**) 02-19-2017, 03:43 PM

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n this world of global mass surveillance by not the only US, but also intelligence agencies across the world, every other country wants tech companies including Google, Apple, and Microsoft to set-up and maintain their servers in their country to keep their citizen data within boundaries.
Last year, Microsoft won a case which ruled that the US government cannot force tech companies to hand over their non-US customers' data stored on servers located in other countries to the FBI or any other federal authorities.
However, a new notable ruling just goes against the court judgment last year, raising concerns regarding people's privacy.

A US magistrate reportedly ruled Friday that Google has to comply with FBI search warrants seeking customer emails stored on servers outside of the United States, according to RT.
U.S. Magistrate Judge Thomas Rueter in Philadelphia noted that transferring emails from outside servers so FBI could read them locally as part of a domestic fraud probe didn't qualify as a seizure because there's "no meaningful interference" with the account holder's "possessory interest" in the data sought.
Here's what Judge Rueter says:

"Google regularly transfers user data from one data center to another without the customer's knowledge. Such transfers do not interfere with the customer’s access or possessory interest in the user data. Even if the transfer interferes with the account owner's control over his information, this interference is de minimis [minimal] and temporary."

In August 2016, the search engine giant was ordered to comply with two FBI search warrants related to criminal investigations, but Google provided only the data stored on its US servers.
So, the government filed a motion to compel Google to hand over the rest of the information to the FBI.

US Judge Ordered Google to Hand Over Emails Stored On Foreign Servers to FBI

https://www.rt.com/usa/376336-google...mails-privacy/

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The ruling by Judge Rueter has been questioned by some legal experts.

“The court suggests that bringing a file back to the United States is not a seizure because Google moves data around all the time and ‘this interference is de minimis and temporary’,” Professor Orin Kerr wrote in the Washington Post.

“I don't think that works. Google is a private company not regulated by the Fourth Amendment, so whether it moves around data is irrelevant. And I don't see what is 'de minimis and temporary' about the government ordering Google to make a copy of your email pursuant to a court order.”

The last part sums it up quite well.
The judge needs to be kicked to the curb.

300 H and H · #2 (**permalink**) 02-19-2017, 04:03 PM

It must be the Clinton's privacy you are concerned about?

Could it be the new DOJ is going to find the rest of those e mails for her criminal case?

I guess we should be blaming her for yet another mess.

Regards, Kirk

foundit66 · #3 (**permalink**) 02-19-2017, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 300 H and H

It must be the Clinton's privacy you are concerned about?
Could it be the new DOJ is going to find the rest of those e mails for her criminal case?
I guess we should be blaming her for yet another mess.
Regards, Kirk

What a dumb rejoinder.
The email issue is dead.
And considering this is about "Emails Stored On Foreign Servers", it obviously has no impact on Clinton

Go troll somebody else's thread.

300 H and H · #4 (**permalink**) 02-19-2017, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

The email issue is dead.
And considering this is about "Emails Stored On Foreign Servers", it obviously has no impact on Clinton

The Clinton foundation investigation is dead?

“Lock her up?” The FBI probe into the Clinton Foundation is still ongoing Hot Air

So her e mails are still in question, with some 30,000 unread. Many on foreign servers to I bet...

I guess your obviously wrong.

Regards, Kirk

foundit66 · #5 (**permalink**) 02-19-2017, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 300 H and H

The Clinton foundation investigation is dead?

Your article is two months old.

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Originally Posted by 300 H and H

So her e mails are still in question, with some 30,000 unread. Many on foreign servers to I bet...

Which demonstrates how ignorant you are of that issue which has nothing to do with this subject.

300 H and H · #6 (**permalink**) 02-19-2017, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

Your article is two months old.

So? That doesn't mean the FBI is not still investigating now does it?

Pretty sure there investigations take longer than 2 months to.

Can you refute the link and the article, and explain why this has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton? I can seem to find anything to the contrary.

So what does the OP offer as an explaination for the Judges order? It has be held widely as a belief the Clinton e mails are some were, perhaps over sea in another country..

Regards, Kirk

saltwn · #7 (**permalink**) 02-19-2017, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

US Judge Ordered Google to Hand Over Emails Stored On Foreign Servers to FBI

https://www.rt.com/usa/376336-google...mails-privacy/

The last part sums it up quite well.
The judge needs to be kicked to the curb.

is this to stop the prince of india from hacking my bank account?
serious question

foundit66 · #8 (**permalink**) 02-19-2017, 04:50 PM

300 H & H?
It's Repubs like you which allow our civil rights to be trampled because you're too busy trying to make everything partisan.

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Originally Posted by 300 H and H

So? That doesn't mean the FBI is not still investigating now does it?

Do you have any evidence they are?
Cause the FBI EXPLICITLY said the investigation was closed.
FBI declares it is finally done investigating Hillary Clinton's email

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Originally Posted by 300 H and H

Can you refute the link and the article, and explain why this has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton? I can seem to find anything to the contrary.

I already did that.
Clinton's servers were in the U.S. Already investigated.
There is no evidence she had servers overseas.

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Originally Posted by 300 H and H

So what does the OP offer as an explaination for the Judges order? It has be held widely as a belief the Clinton e mails are some were, perhaps over sea in another country..

The OP already talked about that and it has nothing to do with Clinton.

saltwn · #9 (**permalink**) 02-19-2017, 04:59 PM

People no longer understand there is no politics in some things

pretty soon when a girls utters, "I like pink," some altrighty will back hand her and shout, "Quit insulting Trump!"

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