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President Donald Trump Signs Executive Order to Defund International Planned Parenthood

President Donald Trump Signs Executive Order to Defund International Planned Parenthood | LifeNews.com
Most pro-life Americans are anxiously awaiting Congress to pass a bill to defund the Planned Parenthood abortion business. While that defunding legislation concerns the domestic-based Planned Parenthood abortion corporation, President Trump has the ability to put in place an executive order that would revoke funding for its International affiliate.

When pro-abortion former President Barack Obama took office, Obama overturned a policy that prevented funding of groups that promote or perform abortions overseas. The Mexico City Policy covered over $400 million in federal funds, part of which flowed to the abortion businesses International Planned Parenthood and Marie Stopes International for their foreign efforts.

As LifeNews.com reported, the pro-life policy had been in place during the entirety of the Bush administration and Obama rescinded it on his first week in office. Named for a 1984 population conference where President Reagan initially announced it, the Mexico City Policy made it so family planning funds could only go to groups that would agree to not do abortions or lobby foreign nations to overturn their pro-life laws.

Today, Trump restored the Mexico City Policy by executive order.

The Executive Memorandum to reinstate the Mexico City Policy stops taxpayer funding of groups that perform and promote abortions overseas but does not stop non-abortion international assistance....
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The title is misleading...It implies that this policy removes funding from an organization called "International Planned Parenthood"...False...It removes funding from ALL international organizations that use federal funds for abortion...This is in accordance with the Helms Amendment, which was passed in 1973 and never overturned...

Every time a Democrat rescinds the policy, they are saying "We are going to pretend the law passed in 1973 and never overturned doesn't even exist!"...

For historical purposes...

The Republicans put it in and the Dems keep taking it out...

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The policy was enacted by Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1984, rescinded by Democratic President Bill Clinton in January 1993, re-instituted in January 2001 as Republican President George W. Bush took office, rescinded on January 23, 2009, three days after Democratic President Barack Obama took office and re-instated in January 2017 as Republican President Donald J. Trump assumed the office.
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I was told that executive orders were bad.
Fixed it for,
I was told that executive orders were bad when they disagree with my political position.

Both parties do it and both parties snivel about it when the other party does it.
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The title is misleading...It implies that this policy removes funding from an organization called "International Planned Parenthood"...False...It removes funding from ALL international organizations that use federal funds for abortion...This is in accordance with the Helms Amendment, which was passed in 1973 and never overturned...

Every time a Democrat rescinds the policy, they are saying "We are going to pretend the law passed in 1973 and never overturned doesn't even exist!"...

For historical purposes...

The Republicans put it in and the Dems keep taking it out...
"Look at how many executive orders, so many, and I issue the best executive orders, when you look at them, they are the best. And we did so many! I could have done more, you know, and they would have been great ... you know they told me 'Mr. Trump, can you make another executive order' and they were, you know I can just do it, you know, and we all know how important executive orders are, look at Lincoln, great President...Republican! People forget that but Lincoln was a Republican President, one of the greatest, and he did the slavery deal, great President. Maybe not the greatest, they'll say Lincoln was good but Donnie, the best"
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"Look at how many executive orders, so many, and I issue the best executive orders, when you look at them, they are the best. And we did so many! I could have done more, you know, and they would have been great ... you know they told me 'Mr. Trump, can you make another executive order' and they were, you know I can just do it, you know, and we all know how important executive orders are, look at Lincoln, great President...Republican! People forget that but Lincoln was a Republican President, one of the greatest, and he did the slavery deal, great President. Maybe not the greatest, they'll say Lincoln was good but Donnie, the best"

Suddenly EOs are a good thing! Amazing how that happens yanno
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I was told that executive orders were bad.
They often are, in a lot of cases they usurp the constitutional authority from the other branches. But when ONE Prez uses them to reverse part of a congressional law. Then it makes sense for a subsequent Executive to rescind the UNconstitutional order.

However I fully expect Trump go overboard at some point and start write EOs willy Nilly in an Unconstitutional fashion. It's seems to be the thing presidents think they are supposed to do.

Do you see any problems ... constitutionally speaking ... with Executive Orders RedState?
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They often are, in a lot of cases they usurp the constitutional authority from the other branches. But when ONE Prez uses them to reverse part of a congressional law. Then it makes sense for a subsequent Executive to rescind the UNconstitutional order.

However I fully expect Trump go aboard and write EOs willy Nilly in an Unconstitutional fashion. It's seems to be the thing presidents think they are supposed to do.

Do you see any problems ... constitutionally speaking ... with Executive Orders RedState?
Generally Speaking I do not see any problems. If you win the Presidency you should have a mandate to push through your agenda, assuming its the agenda you ran on. And of course, The Supreme Court has the final say on the constitutionality of EO's, checks and balances! For the Win.

I do think its a bad idea to rely on EO's and going through Congress is a much better option if you want your legislation to last. Look how they are already eroding Obamas legacy because he had no choice but to rely on EO's. But Obama Understood that, I think he was counting on Hillary to win just as much as the rest of us were.
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The title is misleading...It implies that this policy removes funding from an organization called "International Planned Parenthood"...False...It removes funding from ALL international organizations that use federal funds for abortion...This is in accordance with the Helms Amendment, which was passed in 1973 and never overturned...

Every time a Democrat rescinds the policy, they are saying "We are going to pretend the law passed in 1973 and never overturned doesn't even exist!"...

For historical purposes...

The Republicans put it in and the Dems keep taking it out...
There actually is the International Planned Parenthood Federation but I'm unsure if this is the organization being referred to.
Welcome to IPPF | IPPF

The Helms Amendment prohibited the use of US funds being used for abortion services but did not prohibit funds from being used for reproductive services unrelated to abortion by a provider that also performs abortions. The executive orders by Obama did not authorize funds to be used for abortions in foreign countries. It removed the restriction that the funds couldn't go to providers that used the funds for non-abortion related reproductive services.

This is basically the same condition that exists under US law where federal funds cannot be used for abortion services but can be used for reproductive services unrelated to abortions by a provider that also performs abortions.

The "debate" is distorted by the anti-abortionists because it's not Pro-Life v Pro-Abortion. It's Pro-Women's Rights v Anti-Women's Rights.

Many or most of those that are Pro-Choice are also Pro-Life. They merely recognize the fact that the only one that has the Right to make the decision about abortion IS THE WOMAN.

The GOP attack on Planned Parenthood, that doesn't use any federal funding for abortion services, is an attack on the Constitution that protects the Rights of a Woman.

This takes me to the question asked in my signature.

Why do Republicans support the UNCONSTITUTIONAL Violation of the Woman's Right to have an Abortion?

Roe v Wade established that fact and despite objections from the Anti-Abortionists the Roe v Wade decision was absolutely correct based upon both prior legal precedent of the "person" throughout recorded history protected by the 14th Amendment and the Natural Rights of the Woman (when the criteria of "personhood is established at birth" was waived as a consideration) protected by the Ninth Amendment .

Why do Republicans Oppose the US Constitution?

This is the burning question that underscores why the GOP cannot be trusted to lead our nation. If they don't support the US Constitution, and they clearly demonstrate that they don't, then how can any American trust them when they control the government?
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"Look at how many executive orders, so many, and I issue the best executive orders, when you look at them, they are the best. And we did so many! I could have done more, you know, and they would have been great ... you know they told me 'Mr. Trump, can you make another executive order' and they were, you know I can just do it, you know, and we all know how important executive orders are, look at Lincoln, great President...Republican! People forget that but Lincoln was a Republican President, one of the greatest, and he did the slavery deal, great President. Maybe not the greatest, they'll say Lincoln was good but Donnie, the best"
Unfortunately today the Republican Party is no longer the Party of Lincoln that "freed the slaves" but instead has become the Party of (Andrew) Johnson that stated, “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men.”
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