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A federal judge on Thursday blocked until at least next month hotly debated Texas rules mandating burial or cremation of fetal remains that were set to go into effect within days.

The ruling by Austin-based U.S. District Judge Sam Sparks begins the latest legal battle for a state whose tough anti-abortion laws were largely struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court this summer.

The Center for Reproductive Rights and other national advocacy groups sued to prevent Texas from requiring hospitals and clinics to bury or cremate fetal remains from abortions or miscarriages rather than disposing of them in a sanitary landfill, as they often currently do with such remains and other biological medical waste. The rules had been set to take effect Monday.

The lawsuit argues that the rules serve no medical purpose and are meant to shame women who seek abortions and make it harder for doctors to provide them.

Sparks granted a temporary restraining order blocking the rules, then scheduled two days of testimony for early next month. He expects to rule by Jan. 6 on whether they will be allowed to stand going forward.

Earlier legal challenges blocked similar measures in Louisiana and in Indiana, where they were signed into law by Gov. Mike Pence, now Donald Trump's vice president-elect.
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Good! That was an asinine law and the main reason why I believe Mike Pence was a lousy choice to be Trump's VP.
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Let's take the pro-life/pro-choice element out of this for a moment .... wouldn't it still be BETTER to have human biological remains incinerated or buried rather than thrown in a landfill?
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Let's take the pro-life/pro-choice element out of this for a moment .... wouldn't it still be BETTER to have human biological remains incinerated or buried rather than thrown in a landfill?

What is a Sanitary Landfill?

Sanitary landfills are sites where waste is isolated from the environment until it is safe.
It is considered when it has completely degraded biologically, chemically and physically. In high-income countries, the level of isolation achieved may be high. However, such an expensive high level of isolation may not be technically necessary to protect public health. Four basic conditions should be met before a site can be regarded as a sanitary landfill (see following.) The ways of doing this should be adapted to local conditions. The immediate goal is to meet, to the best extent possible, the four stated basic sanitary landfill conditions, with a longer term goal to meet them eventually in full.

What is a Sanitary Landfill?
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Damn shame it couldn't have been a father / son event. IMHO.
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Let's take the pro-life/pro-choice element out of this for a moment .... wouldn't it still be BETTER to have human biological remains incinerated or buried rather than thrown in a landfill?
then you couldn't sell the parts.
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then you couldn't sell the parts.
I have no problem with fetal tissue being used for scientific research.
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I have no problem with fetal tissue being used for scientific research.
I have a problem with stand alone for profit abortion clinics, Always have, It's hard enough for hospitals and nursing homes to balance business and humanity. I have no faith abortion clinics are staffed with sensitive individuals who haven't become cynical or cold. Just protection of the psyche demands a lot of denial. I'd much rather all this be handled by a hospital doctor or regular gynecologist. And maybe have clinics as referral destinations only. BUT I don't want government interfering in a licensed gynecologist or psychologist referral for abortion. They are trained and the decision is between them and the woman.
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I have a problem with stand alone for profit abortion clinics, Always have, It's hard enough for hospitals and nursing homes to balance business and humanity. I have no faith abortion clinics are staffed with sensitive individuals who haven't become cynical or cold. Just protection of the psyche demands a lot of denial. I'd much rather all this be handled by a hospital doctor or regular gynecologist. And maybe have clinics as referral destinations only. BUT I don't want government interfering in a licensed gynecologist or psychologist referral for abortion. They are trained and the decision is between them and the woman.
I really do not think that happens 99% of the time in this country. Granted people that can and do arraigned this stuff do have to earn a living like pay rent and everything like anybody that has to. You could just as well go after a real estate agent who earns 3% on a transaction. That could mean a family having a house or not.
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I really do not think that happens 99% of the time in this country. Granted people that can and do arraigned this stuff do have to earn a living like pay rent and everything like anybody that has to. You could just as well go after a real estate agent who earns 3% on a transaction. That could mean a family having a house or not.
Having worked for good and bad medical facilities, I haven't the faith you have unless these places are heavily regulated like VA approved or skilled nursing centers. I'm not sure what regulation is on abortion clinics, I have read opposing articles on that. I would like to know.
Also clinic doctors and nurses should publish. That is so important for increased health and modernization of techniques.
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Having worked for good and bad medical facilities, I haven't the faith you have unless these places are heavily regulated like VA approved or skilled nursing centers. I'm not sure what regulation is on abortion clinics, I have read opposing articles on that. I would like to know.
Also clinic doctors and nurses should publish. That is so important for increased health and modernization of techniques.
One of my biggest concerns is when people just go into the the profession to make money. I've met a few like that.
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