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Old 02-23-2017, 12:32 AM
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AT&T is spying on me? They must be bored as hell.
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Same here. Honestly, some people take the privacy issue a little TOO seriously, at times.
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Same here. Honestly, some people take the privacy issue a little TOO seriously, at times.



Ya why worry guys. They take a bit from here and then want a bit from there. We can always tell them No, right guys?

Cause they will listen to Joe Public....... Again the left is showing it is so damn stupid... .
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Your not just a customer but your a commodity, anyone ever bother to read the users agreement that comes with a new TV?

Samsung, LG, and Vizio smart TVs are recording—and sharing data about—everything you watch

How about the fact that all your online use is tracked by Google regardless of whether or not you use any Google products, this article misses out on the Google ads part which you can't control.

Google’s Gotcha

And don't forget that prefered customer card or what ever the store wants to call it. You have been tracked, numbered, and on file for a very long time, and the government didn't have to lift a finger because businesses did it all on their own.
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Ya why worry guys. They take a bit from here and then want a bit from there. We can always tell them No, right guys?
Look, I'm all FOR privacy. I'm totally against the govt. infringing in this area.
But at the same time, some people treat this issue unrealistically, at times. I imagine when the camera first came on the scene in the 19th century and got personally popular in the early 20th century, there were probably concerns among some that people would be losing their privacy. And in reality, yes, they did lose some privacy with the invention of the camera.
Technology marches on. People have to be vigilant by engaging in actions that help ENSURE personal privacy (such as embracing encryption and good internet practices) rather than just complaining about it or expecting the government to back off. When I see people complain about this issue but they won't do things like learn to use good security and privacy approaches to how they do things, it's hard to take them seriously. How many stong privacy advocates have taken the time to learn how to use VPNs, or anonymous web browsing, for example?
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Look, I'm all FOR privacy. I'm totally against the govt. infringing in this area.
But at the same time, some people treat this issue unrealistically, at times. I imagine when the camera first came on the scene in the 19th century and got personally popular in the early 20th century, there were probably concerns among some that people would be losing their privacy. And in reality, yes, they did lose some privacy with the invention of the camera.
Technology marches on. People have to be vigilant by engaging in actions that help ENSURE personal privacy (such as embracing encryption and good internet practices) rather than just complaining about it or expecting the government to back off. When I see people complain about this issue but they won't do things like learn to use good security and privacy approaches to how they do things, it's hard to take them seriously. How many stong privacy advocates have taken the time to learn how to use VPNs, or anonymous web browsing, for example?

How did a camera get involved when we are talking about devices like a cell phone a computer or plain phone.

I am not against what is needed to make a country a safe place in these trying times. Just the excess and extras that are happening.

My camera on the PC is covered and duct taped.. We got them at evry traffic light and I obey the speed limit. Which I would still do without them.

I and smile... We can't stop everything we don't like. But Illegal thing we need to stop.
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Look, I'm all FOR privacy. I'm totally against the govt. infringing in this area.
But at the same time, some people treat this issue unrealistically, at times. I imagine when the camera first came on the scene in the 19th century and got personally popular in the early 20th century, there were probably concerns among some that people would be losing their privacy. And in reality, yes, they did lose some privacy with the invention of the camera.
Technology marches on. People have to be vigilant by engaging in actions that help ENSURE personal privacy (such as embracing encryption and good internet practices) rather than just complaining about it or expecting the government to back off. When I see people complain about this issue but they won't do things like learn to use good security and privacy approaches to how they do things, it's hard to take them seriously. How many stong privacy advocates have taken the time to learn how to use VPNs, or anonymous web browsing, for example?
I studied photography at both Pratt and New York University and we never really discussed privacy on this scale.
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Look, I'm all FOR privacy. I'm totally against the govt. infringing in this area.
But at the same time, some people treat this issue unrealistically, at times. I imagine when the camera first came on the scene in the 19th century and got personally popular in the early 20th century, there were probably concerns among some that people would be losing their privacy. And in reality, yes, they did lose some privacy with the invention of the camera.
Technology marches on. People have to be vigilant by engaging in actions that help ENSURE personal privacy (such as embracing encryption and good internet practices) rather than just complaining about it or expecting the government to back off. When I see people complain about this issue but they won't do things like learn to use good security and privacy approaches to how they do things, it's hard to take them seriously. How many stong privacy advocates have taken the time to learn how to use VPNs, or anonymous web browsing, for example?
You talk about "good security and privacy approaches"...
Explain how they would help with regards to the type of invasiveness that AT&T is performing...

To put it another way, did you even read the original article and do you have any clue as to what AT&T is actually doing?

Hint: VPNs have nothing to do with what's being described in post #1.
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You talk about "good security and privacy approaches"...
Explain how they would help with regards to the type of invasiveness that AT&T is performing...
One example would be the way encrypted texting services over smart phones work--Using imessage or an Android equivilent rather that SMS, since imessage is just IP data (that can be done over any wi-fi network anywhere--NOT a cell tower) as well as encrypted. This is way more secure than simple SMS traffic which companies like AT&T can actually monitor from their towers.

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To put it another way, did you even read the original article
Yes, Foundit, I read the article. I was just giving examples where many people who advocate for strong privacy don't walk the walk, personally.
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I studied photography at both Pratt and New York University and we never really discussed privacy on this scale.
Photography of inanimate objects (buildings and such) or nature, there is no problem.

The minute you take a picture for profit or intent for profit, any person or privately owned property that's in that photograph, you need a release.

Sort of like a warrant, if you will. Generalized data (x number of hotdogs were purchased at X zip code) is used for marketing, and people have to understand that when they sign up for something.

When it is individual target specific, or content specific (word scanning), THEN a warrant is necessary, IMO.
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