Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > Political Forums > Civil Rights & Abortion
Register FAQDonate PW Store PW Trivia Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Civil Rights & Abortion Discuss U.S. court rules that FBI can hack into a computer without a warrant at the Political Forums; A U.S. court has ruled that the FBI can hack into a computer without a warrant—a move which is troubling ...

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-25-2016, 09:43 PM
foundit66's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California
Gender: Male
Posts: 25,521
Thanks: 10,080
Thanked 15,233 Times in 9,233 Posts
Post U.S. court rules that FBI can hack into a computer without a warrant

Quote:
A U.S. court has ruled that the FBI can hack into a computer without a warrant—a move which is troubling privacy advocates.

The criminal case involves a child pornography site, Playpen, that had been accessible through Tor, a browser designed for anonymous web surfing.

The FBI, however, managed to take over the site in 2014, and then tracked down and arrested its members by hacking their computers. This allowed law enforcement to secretly collect their IP addresses.

One of the arrested suspects has argued that the evidence against him had been unlawfully seized. But a U.S. court in Virginia has ruled in favor of the FBI, according to court documents unsealed on Thursday.

The judge, Henry Morgan, ruled that even though the FBI obtained a warrant to hack into the suspect’s computer, none was needed.

The suspect may have used Tor to keep his browsing anonymous, but his IP address still isn’t private information, the judge wrote in his ruling. This is because the IP address is given out to third parties in order to access the Internet and even the Tor network.

Privacy advocacy group, Electronic Frontier Foundation, is opposed to this part of the ruling.

“The implications for the decision, if upheld, are staggering,” wrote Mark Rumold, an attorney with the group in a blog post. Law enforcement could seize information from a person’s computer without a warrant, probable cause or any suspicion at all, he said.

“To say the least, the decision is bad news for privacy,” he added.

Morgan, however, said in his ruling that the rise of hacking has changed expectations about privacy.

“For example, hacking is much more prevalent now than it was even nine years ago,” he said. “Now, it seems unreasonable to think that a computer connected to the Web is immune from invasion.”

As a result, Tor users “cannot reasonably expect” to be safe from hackers, he added.
The FBI also didn’t violate the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution by hacking into the suspect’s computer. Law enforcement should be able to use cutting-edge technology to stop crimes done in secrecy, Morgan said.
U.S. court rules that FBI can hack into a computer without a warrant | PCWorld

So, the FBI got a warrant to hack the computer.


The judge turns around and argues they didn't have to.


The judge argues that because people can't expect their own home computers are immune from being hacked (by other people, which could be violating a variety of laws), then people can't expect their own computers are exempt from being hacked by the government.

That's like saying that people in our society don't have freedom of speech with regards to their employers (you can be fired for speaking bad about your employer) or various social groups (you can be kicked out of various group for bad mouthing them) or ...
Therefore, you have to expect that the government can punish you for speaking out against them...

Quote:
Rumold, however, expects that this part of judge’s ruling probably won’t hold up in appeal.
That's putting it mildly.
__________________
“Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”
~Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to foundit66 For This Useful Post:
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-25-2016, 09:51 PM
Manitou's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Gender: Male
Posts: 19,082
Thanks: 283
Thanked 5,779 Times in 4,187 Posts
Default Re: U.S. court rules that FBI can hack into a computer without a warrant

The baboon in question needs to stuff his black robe up his ass and resign in shame.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-25-2016, 11:31 PM
MrLiberty's Avatar
professional curmudgeon
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 30,506
Thanks: 21,953
Thanked 18,609 Times in 11,936 Posts
Default Re: U.S. court rules that FBI can hack into a computer without a warrant

The judge was appointed by George Bush BTW.
__________________
Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war.

Donald Trump
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
can, computer, court, fbi, hack, into, rules, that, warrant, without

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0