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Since I was just having a conversation with catus about serial killers, this fits in nicely...

PJ Media is starting a tip line where reporters, who believe the story should be news but are getting struck down by the higher-ups (while they continue to gush over the Jodi Arias trial ) can whistleblow their bosses anonymously...

TIP LINE: Did Your Editor Spike Kermit Gosnell Coverage? Report It Here Anonymously
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I think another reason the Gosnell trial lacks interest is lack of motive. The 'last chapter of the who done it' so to speak.


Gosnells crimes were done for nothing more than simple profit.
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I think another reason the Gosnell trial lacks interest is lack of motive. The 'last chapter of the who done it' so to speak.


Gosnells crimes were done for nothing more than simple profit.
You're looking for reasons why it shouldn't be national...

But dismissing any reason it should be...and all it takes is ONE...

If I went through today's news in ANY media outlet, you know damn well I can find 50 stories that deserve less national attention than this one...
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Since I was just having a conversation with catus about serial killers, this fits in nicely...

PJ Media is starting a tip line where reporters, who believe the story should be news but are getting struck down by the higher-ups (while they continue to gush over the Jodi Arias trial ) can whistleblow their bosses anonymously...

TIP LINE: Did Your Editor Spike Kermit Gosnell Coverage? Report It Here Anonymously

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Few Americans can not answer this question: who is the worst domestic mass murderer in United States’ history? Due to the United States media, most are aware that Timothy McVeigh slaughtered 168 people with a bomb in 1995.

Most Americans also know the names of our three most monstrous serial killers: “The Green River Killer” Gary Ridgeway, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy. The U.S. media is again responsible for the general awareness of these men; these stories deserved — and received — national attention due to our common interest in personal safety, the rule of law, and the character of our nation.

Informing the public about these four killers was — morally and professionally — the proper judgment.

For the past few weeks, a man has been on trial who, according to testimony, is likely to surpass Ridgeway as the U.S. serial killer with the highest body count, and he may surpass McVeigh as the worst mass murderer as well. Ridgeway is suspected of more than 90 murders and he was convicted of 41. This man stands trial for murdering eight — however, testimony puts the number at more than 100.


Further: the other four mentioned above primarily murdered adults. Only one murdered children. Indeed, a significant portion of the revulsion the country will forever direct towards McVeigh involves the 19 children at a daycare center who were killed by his bomb.

After being apprehended, McVeigh told investigators he did not know there was a daycare center in the building — and that if he had known, “it might have given [him] pause to switch targets.”

Even McVeigh perhaps thought the murder of children to be beyond the pale.

The man currently on trial?

He almost exclusively murdered children.


To compound the enormity of the event as a news story: the man did not act alone. Several others, who are also being prosecuted, aided him in the murder of perhaps more than 100 babies.

In an immoral, unprofessional, bizarre — surely, several other negative descriptors are apt — display of unity, virtually the entire U.S. media industry save for those generally referred to as “conservative outlets” have instituted a blackout of the trial.

Infanticide — the crime that gave even Timothy McVeigh pause — is a left/right issue for your employer?

The media behavior regarding the trial of monster Kermit Gosnell is a turning point: with all of conservative media’s complaints regarding the liberal bias of U.S. media, we never imagined this could happen.

We know there are journalists out there infuriated by their employer’s current behavior: The change must start with you.


We are looking for whistleblowers: if you have any information regarding why your employer is not covering the Gosnell trial, please submit it here. Your anonymity will be protected.
Not to detract from your point, which I think has a lot of reason for contemplation...

But I think possibly one incomplete comment I have is that with killing an adult, there is some level of twisted "glamor" involved for some.
Even if we don't think of it in a twisted "glamor" sense (for those who get into the serial killer "celebrities"), there is a level of mental tolerance where the killing of an adult seems more tolerable than killing a child or an infant.
For killing a newborn, it's like a different level of horror (to me).

There was a scene in some robot spoof show (can't remember if it was a Terminator spin-off or a Battlestar Galactica prequel) where the human-looking robot was looking down in a baby stroller at the infant inside. The mother was distracted, looking elsewhere.
The context being that the robot could accomplish at least one small act of human killing by simply killing this infant.

In the show, the "robots" killed dozens of people. Don't remember the details of any of them.
But this one scene stuck with me as very disturbing.

I label this as "incomplete comment" as I also think of different killers who have garnered "celebrity" status for killing their own children. So obviously, a counter-examples can be raised...
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I have an idea. how about you two dropping the constant and silly "you're obsessed" accusations altogether that you levy toward people? That might take you farther toward being taken seriously than anything. The fact you actually took time out to figure out how many threads another poster started on a topic makes all this say more about you than anyone else.
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I'd like to pause for a moment and get a show of hands.

How many people here, besides me, know a woman who has undergone a 'late term abortion'.

By 'late term abortion' I mean in the third trimester?

Hands please?
No one I know has had an abortion in the third trimester.
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Yes it is rare. And the person responsible is apprehended and tried. And we don't go banning pickup trucks because of it.
Have you ever heard of the legal concept of "homosexual panic?" There was a time when homosexual advances could be used as justification for homicide. Those laws were changed. As laws permitting elective late term abortions and clinical infanticide must be be too.

That's a closer metaphorical approximation.
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I have an idea. how about you two dropping the constant and silly "you're obsessed" accusations altogether that you levy toward people? That might take you farther toward being taken seriously than anything. The fact you actually took time out to figure out how many threads another poster started on a topic makes all this say more about you than anyone else.
I'm sure we'd all agree that the world would be a brighter, happier place if we all just ignored everything about homosexuality and homosexuals.
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Have you ever heard of the legal concept of "homosexual panic?" There was a time when homosexual advances could be used as justification for homicide. Those laws were changed. As laws permitting elective late term abortions and clinical infanticide must be be too.

That's a closer metaphorical approximation.
There are laws against it. Hence the dude's arrest and trial.
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You're looking for reasons why it shouldn't be national...

But dismissing any reason it should be...and all it takes is ONE...

If I went through today's news in ANY media outlet, you know damn well I can find 50 stories that deserve less national attention than this one...
Please don't confuse my understanding why something is the way it is for approval.

Personally, I think it should be national news. I think it should outrank the OJ trial for coverage.

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