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Job applicants with a 'gay' resume are 40 per cent less likely to get called for an interview, new research suggests.

Harvard social scientist Andras Tilcsik sent out two sets of resumes to 1,769 companies, with one set suggesting that the candidate was gay.
According to the results the 'gay' applicant was 40 per cent less likely to receive an offer for interview.

Reacting to the results, Jonathan Higbee at Instinct magazine said that it proves being, 'a proud gay man looking for a white-collar job,' is a tough business.
But Daniel Villarreal of Queerty said the practice was a, 'blessing in disguise,' with gay men avoiding homophobic work places.
To conduct the survey, Tilcsik listed the 'gay' candidate as a treasurer of a collegiate gay organisation.

The results also showed a regional and job specific bias.
In Western and Northeastern states the results were more balanced.
But in the south and mid west - Texas, Florida and Ohio - the gay resume was far more likely to be rejected.
Also, jobs that traditionally were associated with an aggressive, assertive or decisive persona were far more likely to refuse the gay candidate an interview.
Responding to the regional bias, Tilcsik said: 'This doesn't necessarily mean that there is no discrimination in those states.
'What this does show is that discrimination in white-collar employment is substantially stronger for the Southern and Midwestern states in the sample.'
And with regards to job specific bias, he added the research showed that the bias, 'is partly rooted in specific stereotypes and cannot be completely reduced to a general antipathy against gay employees.'
Read more: Gays need not apply: Research shows 'homosexual' resumes are rejected 40% more than straight CVs | Mail Online

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that comment made me chuckle. Thanks

In Texas the gay people we met were in mostly professional jobs or medical.
And it's funny that gays have always supported women's rights ...
I don't think all hetero men are biased but the tightly wound and ultra scared or religiously driven are scary and I wouldn't want to work for them. Same type who used to have to act superior to women in times past (so everyone would know they weren't gay? ), and the other men 'go along' kind of like during civil rights.

**All these similarities should tell us there need to be laws in concrete that outline & outlaw homosexual discrimination.
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1) Under 2,000 samples is a small survey.

2) Coincidence could also be a large factor. Each business is looking for a specific candidate. If these resumes had different credentials, job history and such, it would make the survey even more faulty, if usable at all.

3) Just because the applicant was not called in for an interview does not necessarily mean it was because of being gay. There are many factors as to why a potential applicant would not even make it to the interview process. To simply assume it was because of being gay is not a logical leap. Many factors at work here. Different companies are looking for different specialties, backgrounds, job history, experience, proper references, etc...

I would not consider this study the here-all-end-all as to if there is a large case of discrimination in the interview process of the work force just yet. Perhaps look just a tad further into it before jumping to blind conclusions based upon which political party you belong to.
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Same type who used to have to act superior to women in times past (so everyone would know they weren't gay? ),...
By that observation, I would say that Muslim men are homo.
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Another social "scientist" who automatically mistakes aversion to political activism for bigotry. Companies don't want an ideological fanatic, they want an employee who is about doing the business of the COMPANY. I suspect the same results would happen if the person had listed himself as having been active (even the 'treasurer') in a Code Pink chapter, or in a chapter of The Moral Majority Coalition. Political activism over hot-button issues can be a turnoff to companies who simply want to turn a profit and stay out of politics.
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Assuming that the "treasurer for a collegiate homosexual association" was the only thing on the resume that indicated that person was a homosexual, there may be a legitimate reason beyond just being homosexual. A lot of college homosexual associations have gotten a reputation for being trouble-makers (whether that reputation is valid or not is inconsequential to this discussion, since the perception is what matters in this case). As a treasurer, the applicant would be assumed to be a "big wheel" and not just a "cog". As such, that applicant would be seen as a potential trouble-maker, not something that most employers want to willingly bring into thier company. If given a choice between two applicants with equal qualifications and the only difference was something that might indicate that one of them could be a trouble-maker, the choice is pretty clearcut. Since these were jobs with multiple applicants, it's pretty safe to assume that there were other equally qualified applicants. In fact, if this study was done with any measure of scientific objectivity, it would be REQUIRED that there be equally qualified applicants as controls.
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Aversion to political activism? Nonsense. Other political activists aren't rejected. It's too bad you can't recognize homophobia when you see it. Being queer is not about a right to privacy; it is about the freedom to be public, to just be who we are.

God forbid queers should advocate for equal rights. They should know their place. They should shut up and not be seen in public.

They should be banned from getting a job unless they are willing to cower in fear.

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Aversion to political activism? Nonsense. Other political activists aren't rejected. It's too bad you can't recognize homophobia when you see it.

God forbid queers should advocate for equal rights. They should know their place.
Had the study been differently, then you'd have something to back up your claim. As it is, the study leaves FAR too much open to interpretation. You choose to ONLY accept one interpetation of the results, some of us are willing to to consider multiple possiblities (that's know as having a closed mind vs. an open mind). Most companies don't give a rat's ass about who you have sex with, as long as it doesn't impact their bottom line. If they got an applicant who was the head of the American Association of Drag Queens, but was well qualified, and had impeccable references showing that he didn't bring the AADQ to work with him, most companies would have no issue with hiring him, if he was the person who could make them the most money. If they had references that said that he showed up in drag 3 days and week and was constantly trying to convince the ladies in the office that "once they try a man in lace, they'll never go back to one in boxers", then they'll most likely pass on him, given the risk that he brings. A person who is part of group that has a reputation for being trouble-makers carries similar risk. Companies simply don't want to hire someone that think may end up suing them for workplace discrimination if they don't get a promotion they thought they deserved.
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Had the study been differently, then you'd have something to back up your claim. As it is, the study leaves FAR too much open to interpretation. You choose to ONLY accept one interpetation of the results, some of us are willing to to consider multiple possiblities (that's know as having a closed mind vs. an open mind). Most companies don't give a rat's ass about who you have sex with, as long as it doesn't impact their bottom line. If they got an applicant who was the head of the American Association of Drag Queens, but was well qualified, and had impeccable references showing that he didn't bring the AADQ to work with him, most companies would have no issue with hiring him, if he was the person who could make them the most money. If they had references that said that he showed up in drag 3 days and week and was constantly trying to convince the ladies in the office that "once they try a man in lace, they'll never go back to one in boxers", then they'll most likely pass on him, given the risk that he brings. A person who is part of group that has a reputation for being trouble-makers carries similar risk. Companies simply don't want to hire someone that think may end up suing them for workplace discrimination if they don't get a promotion they thought they deserved.
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I remember you. You often give homophobes a pass. Be honest. I doubt you'd hire an openly gay or lesbian candidate regardless of how qualifed he or she was.

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I remember you. You often give homophobes a pass.
I'm not giving anyone a pass. In fact, if you read my first post, you'll see that I was offering an alternative conclusion, not the only one. In fact, I'll go on record as saying that there is NO doubt in my mind that some of the applications were rejected because the person doing the hiring wasn't comfortable working with a homosexual. But you'll entertain that concept and none other. I'm trying to open your mind to possibilities outside of the kneejerk response of "homophobia" that this study was DESIGNED to perpetuate and get you to THINK, then decide, instead of just read and then react. Most companies are more interested in the bottom line than who's the "bottom".
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