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| Civil Rights & Abortion Discuss Who is Jane Roe at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by Infidel Dog Actually there is a current relevance to that small detail of the story, but it's ... |
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No one here has any issues with Norma or her story. We're perfectly happy to talk about any aspect of it you wish.
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![]() Roe was lying in order to obtain something the courts explicitly ruled she had a right to. Akin lied (glad to see somebody admit that) in an attempt that would have furthered some rape victims from being able to obtain an abortion (something they have a right to). You want to pretend all lying is equal. It ain't. Lying in order to OBSTRUCT or ELIMINATE A RIGHT is nowhere near the same thing as lying in order to EXERCISE a right... ![]() If you want to bust her for lying, have at it. It's your prerogative. But if you want to pretend Akin's lie and Roe's lie are the same thing, that's absurd.
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And the tyrants are to blame, not the liars. I would never hesitate to lie to get something I needed, if there were no way to obtain it honestly. And I wouldn't feel a bit guilty. The blame would rest squarely on those withholding what I needed and forcing me to lie in order to have it. |
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Me? I thought I was clear. I'd prefer to slip past the whole business of the false rape claim. She was mixed up, abused throughout her life, and desperate. I give her a pass.
My reaction to her story is more of sympathy for everything she went through, and I'm glad she's happy now - no matter how she's doing it. If there's a thing I find villainous though, it would be the cold way the activist attorneys, Coffey and Weddington, treated her once they had her signature on a piece of paper allowing them to use her as a kind of legal Judas goat. |
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I'm just confused about why someone who claimed to be gay and lived in a lesbian relationship for over a decade, then claimed that Jesus cured her and she's now heterosexual, has any credibility whatsoever.
Okay, she was for reproductive choice, then against it, then for it, then against it again. She was heterosexual, then gay, then heterosexual again. Who cares what this flaky wingnut thinks, really? I'm sorry about her sad and unfortunate life, but really she created a lot of her own misfortune through her substance abuse. I'm not sure why her opinion about anything should have any bearing on my reproductive rights. Or why her opinion should have any bearing on anything, as pertains to anyone else besides herself. What qualifications does she have? Why should we listen? Why does her opinion matter? |
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What details or "truth" were attacked? She spoke only the truth, how is that attacking the truth?
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