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Old 04-23-2012, 02:22 PM
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Interesting. You ask for my point then you precede to give it to me.

I disagree. Here's what I think my point is (but what do I know?)

The video claims the Muslims did not just facilitate the slave trade. The kept them in a much larger quantity, and even more inhuman environment than America was guilty of. Also they endorsed the keeping of slaves religiously.

I suggest people like Louis Farrakhan, and all the others who think names like Muhammed, Abd (means slave) anythings who are beating their breasts and crying out against the white race, as if only whitey could conceive of such an inhuman device as slavery learn a little history. If they had been one of the much larger multitude of Africans taken as Muslim slaves they wouldn't exist today.

I'm not saying their ancestors were lucky to be slaves. They were no luckier than mine were to endure the same fate. I'm saying if you really hate slavery change your freaking name Muhammed Abdul or whatever you're thinking is cool this week. If you're going after the great, great, great grandchildren of slave owners why honor the larger portion of them?

I mean they're hating slavery while they're worshiping a religion that tells them slavery is cool.

Also this business of burying the true and horrifying history of Muslim Slave keeping should stop.
Oh I see your point.
American Blacks much like the Irish had their culture almost obliterated.
So it's no surprise they go for a religion that is not only the antithesis of Christianity but one they have discovered was an ancestral religion to some (converted) Africans.
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It doesn't really matter to me what they conclude if they are ever allowed to learn the hidden truth of who the big slavers of African blacks really were, I only think they should know it, because it's history, and I wonder why it's being kept from them, and who's covering it up.

I also wonder why you're trying so hard to twist away from that truth. If it's not true, show me why. If it is what do you care if it becomes well known?
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Show me the bits where it's instructing on how to manage it, or encouraging it. Wanna see stuff like that from the Koran?
It doesn't need to "instruct on how to manage it" in order to condone it or even encourage it. People tend to forget that the Islam is different from the Bible - or at least the New Testement - in that it lays out specifics for conduct in even the most intimate areas of life (more like the old testement). None of that makes slavery in the Christian world "better" than slavery in the Muslim world - that's a very disengenius argument designed to make follows of Christianity feel better about their ethics by ignoring the evils perpetrated under their religion by somehow pretending it isn't "as bad".

You do recall how the Bible was used to justify slavery in America don't you?

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Yes, and again, in the massively larger Muslim slave trade, Males were castrated. Babies were killed at birth. Males were taken for the armies. Females to the Harems. Slave families were not a thing you generally saw so there was no worry about breaking them up.
The world was a much more brutal place than. Shall we go into details?

Slavery in much of the ancient world was brutal - slaves were property and could be killed like domestic animals with only slightly more protection. Or, maybe the owner was compensated at a slightly higher rate.

In the US - white men could rape black women slaves at will with no repercussions. In fact, it was a commonly accepted means of learning about sex for adolescent boys. Now - you somehow seem to think it's "better" that we allowed our slaves to have "families" while the Muslims didn't. Why do you think that? The reason they were allowed to have families was to breed them like cattle. Children could be taken at any time and sold. Fathers could be taken away and sold. They were treated like breeding animals and for some bizarre reason you think that is "better".

It's all evil - there really are no gradations of "better or worse" here.

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I don't think that's the point. The point is Muslim slaving was much larger, perhaps more brutal, religiously endorsed, and that is not generally known. And you have American blacks taking Muslim names, and screaming on street corners about the White slavers. Learn some history is all the video is saying.
American slavery was religiously endorsed and that is often overlooked. It was brutal so quit whitewashing it in a transparent attempt to demonize one religion. The slave trade was horrific EVERYWHERE and was such an economic boon to it's adherents that irradicating it was difficult.
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I find it hard to take this video seriously. It provides an extremely onesided historical view and no real references to seek out. There is no way of checking the validity of the author - who is he and what makes him worth taking seriously?

It reminds me very much of the sort of crap you see on sites like Stormfront.

The poster of the film states this about himself:

Islam is not just another colour in the rainbow along with other religions. Islam is a 100% world domination plan.

270 million non Muslims have been slaughtered in the last 1,400 years by Islamic Jihadists. 10 million Buddhist, 60 million Christians, 80 million Hindus and 120 million non Muslim Africans.

I am not saying Islam is evil, over 1,400 years of history is saying Islam is evil.

I am not saying Islam is evil, the Quran and Hadiths are showing us Islam is evil.

I am not saying Islam is evil, the actions of prophet Muhammad show us He and his Islam are evil.

So dont you waste my time debating with me.

Political correctness is wrong, because it suppresses the truth.


That kind of language in itself raises red flags. The poster has an agenda doesn't he? And he is full of absolutes with no room for debate.
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It doesn't really matter to me what they conclude if they are ever allowed to learn the hidden truth of who the big slavers of African blacks really were, I only think they should know it, because it's history, and I wonder why it's being kept from them, and who's covering it up.

I also wonder why you're trying so hard to twist away from that truth. If it's not true, show me why. If it is what do you care if it becomes well known?
I don't know that anything has been hidden to anyone who would read a history of the regions and peoples.
I already knew much of it.
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