Like thefeds were all about getting rid of illegals till they had to put up or shut up?
You live where I used to-
1950s fantasy world where these people really give a care about rights of peons like us.

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I certainly agree that the current Administration has little concern for personal rights. I'm saying that they'd pounce in a New York Minute on this case to legally attack Arizona, which is seen as a rebellious province -- if they could make a case. Obviously, they can't.

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That sounds great.
When can we call the corpse to testify?

Oh wait. The DA is saying he won't prosecute, so nobody will be testifying...


Sarcasm aside, your statement is 100% true on some levels.
I would love to hear the prison representatives get up on the stand and explain how somebody in their care can wind up in the condition that she died in.

But on other levels? Like the D.A. refusing to hold a trial?
A woman dies in a prison from exposure, and the D.A. refuses to hold a trial?
I honestly don't know how that specific area can be reserved on judgment...


Yeah.
A PRISONER dies FROM EXPOSURE, and it's obviously a problem with too quickly jumping to conclusion with the LEOs...


Just out of curiousity, what do you think the LEO side of the story would be?
She insisted on staying in the box and wanted to die from exposure???


And in the alternate reality where the Feds would try to intervene, the conservative side jumps up and down screaming "STATE'S RIGHTS!!!"

Wow.
It's like you were begging to prove me right before I even said it...
You just chose a slightly different flavor to show your prejudice on...


With absolutely no surprise, your point was ignored...
Well. I recognized it.


The thing that kills me about this situation is that a PRISONER DIED FROM EXPOSURE, and you immediately have multiple people falling all over themselves to excuse the situation...
This woman couldn't go to the toilet without permission, but her dying from exposure is obviously something that we can just ignore...
Perhaps if she were found with a bullet in the back, some here would be insisting she must have fallen on it.

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Somethings missing from the article. What was she serving time for? Since the cages are for discipline, what was she being disciplined for? How often are the people in the cages checked on?

She was covered in excrement because she did it herself. Psych's do that all the time. Who were the witnesses that said she was denied water? Inmates? Other CO's? The article gives no history on her It's a let's feel sorry for the inmate piece and nothing more.

Why aren't the feds pursuing this case? She wasn't black.

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Prostitution, and that was present in the article.

Powell, who was serving a 27-month sentence for prostitution...

The woman died of exposure in a prison, where her every move was commanded by people in authority.
Ergo, the prison should be responsible by initial assessment.

Quite frankly, there is an element here whereby the situation automatically gives some level of responsibility to the prison and its guards.

It's not like she tripped going down the steps and maybe they could have better guard-rails.
She was locked inside a cage in the Arizona sun for hours, until her internal core temperature was at least 108 degrees.

If she were being punished for taking an extra desert or lunch or if she were being punished for shivving a fellow inmate, would either of those matter to the culpability of the prison officials?

Some more details on the issue...

1. Before Marcia was placed in the outdoor cage, she had passed out in her cell. She told staff she was suicidal. The Sgt. who saw Marcia lose consciousness never reported the incident to supervisors, despite the fact that Marcia said she was having trouble breathing.

2. During the investigation, at least 20 inmates told investigators that Marcia was continuously requesting water, but it was denied. All the guards who were interviewed said she was given water. Staff are obviously willing to lie in a death investigation to "cover" for each other.

3. Marcia was taking psychotropic medications at the time (prescribed) which made her particularly sensitive to the heat, but no medical personnel conveyed that fact to prison guards.

4. After more than 2 hours (which was the maximum time allowed in the outdoor cage per policy), Marcia requested to be taken back to her indoor cell. The request was denied.

5. Marcia requested to use a restroom. The request was denied. She defecated in the cage. Twice. A guard discovered that she had soiled herself and left her right where she was. Medical personnel would later discover feces underneath her fingernails and all over her back.

6. The psych unit to which Marcia was awaiting transport should have accepted her hours before she died, but a series of "miscommunications" prevented her from being taken in. Guards who were near the end of their shift did not want to begin the lengthy paperwork process required for a transfer, so they left the job for the next shift, which meant that Marcia was left in the cage for longer and longer amounts of time.

7. No logs, as required by existing-at-the-time DOC policy, were kept on Marcia's time in the outdoor cage. No one has been able to determine how long she was actually in the cage. The DOC has claimed that is was about 3.5 hours. It could have been much more and, according to some inmates who wrote to Middle Ground, is was much longer than 4 hours.

8. Thermometers recorded Marcia's core body temperature at 108 degrees, but the temp could have been higher; the thermometers topped out at 108.

Middle Ground Prison Reform, Inc. :: Welcome

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It sounds like there is definately some substance here despite the apologists:



Disciplinary action taken after inmate Marcia Powell dies from being put in outdoor cell in heat


The sad thing is she died for two reasons:

she was a prostitute

and she was mentally ill





That should never have been allowed to happen.

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