Breast Cancer Abortion Myth, Is it a myth?

talloulou · #1 (**permalink**) 10-09-2007, 02:10 PM

From the fall 2007 Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons:

Click on Fall 2007 then click on the Breast Cancer Article
http://www.jpands.org/

Quote:

Seven known risk factors were examined as an explanation for
these trends:

When a woman is nulliparous, an induced abortion has a greater
carcinogenic effect because it leaves breast cells in a state of
interrupted hormonal development in which they are more
susceptible.
A low age at first birth is protective.
Childlessness increases the risk.
A larger number of children (higher fertility) increases
protection.
Breastfeeding gives additional protection.
Hormonal contraceptives are conducive to breast cancer.
Hormone replacement therapy (HRT) is also conducive to
breast cancer.

Now I don't want breast cancer linked to abortion but I do think at some point we need to put politics aside and get to the truth. Should this study be taken seriously? Seems like a legit publication to me and a fairly straightforward study. Breast cancer among young women is on the rise. I imagine delaying the age of first birth is a big factor. But if abortion is also a factor then that should be recognized regardless of the "political" war about abortion, shouldn't it?

doughgirl · #2 (**permalink**) 10-12-2007, 12:45 PM

This is a subject that the abortion industry does not want anyone talking about. In the past few years there has been a dramatic increase in breast cancer. From all the articles I have read on this topic, the medical community is unable to provide a conclusive explanation. What they have found is that the increase in BC, although general in nature, is more prevalent among certain groups. Some medical researchers think abortion might be an answer. Like Tallloulou said there is a large body of work that place women at a higher risk if she has had an abortion. The rapid increase of breast cancer....the high abortion rate?

Some information I have found.

Quote:

"Research shows that when a woman completes her first full pregnancy, hormonal changes occur which permanently alter the structure of her breasts in a way that greatly reduces her risk of breast cancer."

"A premature termination of a first term pregnancy interrupts this process, circumventing the protective effects of a full-term pregnancy and possibly leaving millions of breast cells in transition."

J. Russo and I. Russo, "Susceptability of the Mammary gland to Carcinogenesis II. pregnancy Interruption as a Factor in Tumor Incidence," American Journal of Pathology, Vol.100 (1980)

Note: They even suspected this link as early as 1980.

Quote:

Dr. Nancy Krieger in the journal Breast Cancer Research and Treatment writes, "According to this hypothesis an early FFTP (first full term pregnancy) would provide the greatest protection against breast cancer by drastically reducing, early on, the presence of undifferentiated and hence vulnerable breast cells, thereby decreasing the risk of subsequent transformation....Other types of pregnancies, however, might increase risk of breast cancer. If a womans first pregnancy resulted in a first-trimester abortion, the dramatic rise in undifferentiated cells that takes place during the first trimeter would not be followed by the marked differentiation occurring during the second and third trimester. The consequent sharp increases in the number of vulnerable cells would thus elevate breast cancer risk....."

N. Kreiger, "Social Class and the Black/White Crossover in the Age-Specific Incidence of Breast Cancer: A Study Linking Census-Derived Data to Population-Based Registry Records," American Journal of Epidemiology., Vol.131 (1990)

Lengthy but needs to be added......

Quote:

"There was a higher rate of both spontaneous and induced abortions among breast cancer patients; increased risk ranged from 100% to 400% among the different subgroups."

M.Segi; I. Fukushima; M. Kurihara, "An Epidemiological Study of Cancer in Japan," GANN, Vol. 48 (1957)

They knew in 1957.

Quote:

"More Israeli women who terminated pregancies in the first trimester developed breast cancer than did the control group."

H.L Stewart and L.J. Dunham, "Epidemiology of Cancer of the Uterine Cervix and Corpus, Breast and Ovary in Israel and New York City," Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Vol.37 (1966)

Quote:

"There was a significant excess of cancer cases reporting one or more abortions."

S Yuasa and B. MacMahon, "Lactation and Reproductive Histories of Breast-Cancer Patients in Tokyo, Japan," Bulletin of the World Health Organization, Vol. 42 (1970)

Quote:

"Women with one or more abrotions had a cancer risk 50% higher than that of women who have not had an abortion; with two or more abortions, the risk rose to 100%."

T. Lin; K.P.Chen; B.MacMahon, "Epidemiologic Characteristics of Cancer of the Breast in Tawan." Cancer, Vol. 27 (1970)

Quote:

"In Brazil, more breast cancer patients reported having had abortions than did the control group."

P. Mirra; P.Cole; B. MacMahon, "Breast Cancer in an area of high priority," Cancer Resources, Vol.31 (1971) Cancer Incidence in Sweden 1971-1984, Stockholm: National Board of Health and Welfare. (1987)

Quote:

"Thirty seven percent of patients who developed breast cancer after menopause have had at least one abortion, whole only 27% of women with other cancers reported having had an abortion."

K.Stavarky and S. Emmons, "Breast Cancer in Pre-Menopausal and Post-Menopausal Women," Journal of the national Cancer Institute, Vol.53 (1974)

Quote:

"The rate of BC among women in Finland increased with the number of abortions."

I. Soini, "Risk Factors of Breast Cancer in Finland," International Journal of Epidemiology, Vol 6 (1977)

Quote:

"Womens whose pregnancies lasted four months or less showed a statistically significant increase in BC."

N. W. Choi, "An Epidemiologic Strudy of Breast Cancer," American Journal of Epidemiology, Vol. 107 (1978)

Quote:

"A case controlled study in the North Caucasus, Soviet Union, found an increased risk of 240% in women with three or more induced abortions. With one or two induced abortions, the increase in risk was 100%."

V.V. Dvoirin and A.B. Medvedev, "The Role of Reproductive History in Breast Cancer Causation," methods and Results of Studies of Breast Cancer Epidemiology, Tallinn, Estonia (1978)

Quote:

"Pregnancies of less than 4-5 months duration may be associated with an increased risk."

J.L Kelsey, "A Review of the Epidemiology of Human Breast Cancer," Epidemiology Review, Vol. 1 (1979)

A lot to type........will add to list later.

doughgirl · #3 (**permalink**) 10-12-2007, 12:54 PM

No one at this point can say specifically that abortion does or does not cause breast cancer. More studies need to be done. Surprising that with the work that has already been done in this field that pro-womens groups like PP and NOW politically demand nothing. Are they afraid that if information leads to the conclusion that abortion does cause BC that abortion laws will be overturned? They would rather woman have the choice to kill than any chance to cure BC. It's all about denying women the choice, to be informed. For them its to risky to even inform women about the links that abortion has to Breast Cancer.

winston53660 · #4 (**permalink**) 10-12-2007, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talloulou

Now I don't want breast cancer linked to abortion but I do think at some point we need to put politics aside and get to the truth. Should this study be taken seriously? Seems like a legit publication to me and a fairly straightforward study. Breast cancer among young women is on the rise. I imagine delaying the age of first birth is a big factor. But if abortion is also a factor then that should be recognized regardless of the "political" war about abortion, shouldn't it?

They seem to be more politically oriented than medical science oriented:

Quote:

A 1966 article in the New York Times described the organization as an "ultra-right-wing... political-economic rather than medical" group, and asserted that historically some of its leaders had been members of the John Birch Society.[6][7]

Currently, the organization opposes mandatory vaccination,[8] universal health care[9] and government intervention in healthcare.[10] The AAPS has characterized the effects of the Social Security Act of 1965, which established Medicare and Medicaid, as "evil" and "immoral",[11] and encouraged members to avoid participating in Medicare and Medicaid.[12][13] AAPS believes that there is no right to medical care, and opposes efforts to implement a national health plan.[14] The organization also opposes the use of evidence-based medicine and practice guidelines as a usurpation of physician autonomy.[15]

AAPS opposes abortion[16] and over-the-counter access to emergency contraception.[17]

AAPS helped appeal the conviction of Virginia internist William Hurwitz, who was sentenced to 25 years in federal prison years for prescribing narcotic drugs in excessive quantities after 16 former patients testified against him.[18] Dr Hurwitz was granted a retrial in 2006 [19]

In 2004, AAPS filed a brief on behalf of Rush Limbaugh.[20] In 1975, they went to court to block enforcement of a new Social Security amendment that would monitor the treatment given Medicare and Medicaid patients.[21] More recently, they have been involved in litigation against HIPAA, arguing that it is violates the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution by allowing government access to certain medical data without a warrant.[22] In 2006 the group called attention to sham peer review.[23]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associa...s_and_Surgeons

saltwn · #5 (**permalink**) 10-13-2007, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talloulou

From the fall 2007 Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons:

Click on Fall 2007 then click on the Breast Cancer Article
http://www.jpands.org/

Now I don't want breast cancer linked to abortion but I do think at some point we need to put politics aside and get to the truth. Should this study be taken seriously? Seems like a legit publication to me and a fairly straightforward study. Breast cancer among young women is on the rise. I imagine delaying the age of first birth is a big factor. But if abortion is also a factor then that should be recognized regardless of the "political" war about abortion, shouldn't it?

Yes. And if this study is legitimate and can be reproduced, it may lead to a chink in that 'political' manipulation of a subject I, for one, believe should be strictly medical.Thank you for finding this article.

KnightOfSappho · #6 (**permalink**) 10-22-2007, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talloulou

From the fall 2007 Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons:

Click on Fall 2007 then click on the Breast Cancer Article
http://www.jpands.org/

Now I don't want breast cancer linked to abortion but I do think at some point we need to put politics aside and get to the truth. Should this study be taken seriously? Seems like a legit publication to me and a fairly straightforward study. Breast cancer among young women is on the rise. I imagine delaying the age of first birth is a big factor. But if abortion is also a factor then that should be recognized regardless of the "political" war about abortion, shouldn't it?

You may want to take a look at this statement they have on their website:

http://www.aapsonline.org/brochures/princip.htm

knot_e_lady · #7 (**permalink**) 10-25-2007, 09:25 AM

"The relationship between induced and spontaneous abortion and breast cancer risk has been the subject of extensive research beginning in the late 1950s. Until the mid-1990s, the evidence was inconsistent. Findings from some studies suggested there was no increase in risk of breast cancer among women who had had an abortion, while findings from other studies suggested there was an increased risk. Most of these studies, however, were flawed in a number of ways that can lead to unreliable results. Only a small number of women were included in many of these studies, and for most, the data were collected only after breast cancer had been diagnosed, and women’s histories of miscarriage and abortion were based on their “self-report” rather than on their medical records. Since then, better-designed studies have been conducted. These newer studies examined large numbers of women, collected data before breast cancer was found, and gathered medical history information from medical records rather than simply from self-reports, thereby generating more reliable findings. The newer studies consistently showed no association between induced and spontaneous abortions and breast cancer risk. "

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/f...on-miscarriage

saltwn · #8 (**permalink**) 10-25-2007, 11:19 PM

Hi! I was thinking about starting a similar thread! Glad you guys are on the ball!

Here's some articles that debunk the myth "myth"

http://www.fnsa.org/v1n1/bcancer.html

some of the above may be covered in doughgirl's posts

And...
http://www.polycarp.org/overviewabor...eastcancer.htm

That one is a list of studies.

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com...110/8110a1.pdf

And the last is a Mayo Clinic article. The main purpose of it is to show the same institute is associated with both. (one subject political; one subject non political)

knot_e_lady · #9 (**permalink**) 10-26-2007, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saltwn

Hi! I was thinking about starting a similar thread! Glad you guys are on the ball!

Here's some articles that debunk the myth "myth"

http://www.fnsa.org/v1n1/bcancer.html

some of the above may be covered in doughgirl's posts

And...
http://www.polycarp.org/overviewabor...eastcancer.htm

That one is a list of studies.

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com...110/8110a1.pdf

And the last is a Mayo Clinic article. The main purpose of it is to show the same institute is associated with both. (one subject political; one subject non political)

I guess you didn't read the part of my post that stated the older studies are flawed.

saltwn · #10 (**permalink**) 10-27-2007, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knot_e_lady

"The relationship between induced and spontaneous abortion and breast cancer risk has been the subject of extensive research beginning in the late 1950s. Until the mid-1990s, the evidence was inconsistent. Findings from some studies suggested there was no increase in risk of breast cancer among women who had had an abortion, while findings from other studies suggested there was an increased risk. Most of these studies, however, were flawed in a number of ways that can lead to unreliable results. Only a small number of women were included in many of these studies, and for most, the data were collected only after breast cancer had been diagnosed, and women’s histories of miscarriage and abortion were based on their “self-report” rather than on their medical records. Since then, better-designed studies have been conducted. These newer studies examined large numbers of women, collected data before breast cancer was found, and gathered medical history information from medical records rather than simply from self-reports, thereby generating more reliable findings. The newer studies consistently showed no association between induced and spontaneous abortions and breast cancer risk. "

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/f...on-miscarriage

If you're talking about this post, all I understood it to be was a statement by a cancer institute. I would be interested in reading the results of the studies themselves.
One reason for that is I have always had to look deeper into women's health information when making a personal decision. Recommended treatments for a lot of things done to women are flawed. If there were studies that pointed toward a correlation between these two things, then it's important to consider them.
There's a list of like 20 studies on that one link I gave you. Admittedly, I am not sold on just this one document. But I am not sold any better on "The Cancer Institute says.."
You see? I think women need more information on this. I will continue my search so that I can give my daughters (three of them) good insight as well as for the purposes of publishing it on the Net and for my own peace of mind.

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