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Old 10-27-2007, 01:23 AM
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http://www.bcpinstitute.org/booklet4.htm#maturity

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Breast Maturity & Breast Cancer Risk
Another aspect of breast development affecting breast cancer risk is the maturation of breast lobules from Type 1 lobules to Type 4 lobules.
Not only do these lobules look different anatomically, but they grow differently. For example, Type 1 and 2 lobules copy their DNA faster than Type 3 lobules. The faster DNA is copied, the higher the risk of mutations or cancer cells forming.
Actual photomicrographs of human breast lobules:

http://www.bcpinstitute.org/images/lobule1.jpg

http://www.bcpinstitute.org/images/lobule3.jpg
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The principle of breast cancer risk relating to lobule maturity can explain other well-documented breast cancer risks as well.
In relation to pregnancy:

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If it ends before 32 weeks, by very premature birth or induced abortion, she will have increased risk as she will not get the benefit of full breast maturation, but instead be left with more places for breast cancer to start. Spontaneous abortions in the first trimester do not increase breast cancer risk because they are associated with low estrogen levels.
Article worth looking at.
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If you're talking about this post, all I understood it to be was a statement by a cancer institute. I would be interested in reading the results of the studies themselves.
One reason for that is I have always had to look deeper into women's health information when making a personal decision. Recommended treatments for a lot of things done to women are flawed. If there were studies that pointed toward a correlation between these two things, then it's important to consider them.
There's a list of like 20 studies on that one link I gave you. Admittedly, I am not sold on just this one document. But I am not sold any better on "The Cancer Institute says.."
You see? I think women need more information on this. I will continue my search so that I can give my daughters (three of them) good insight as well as for the purposes of publishing it on the Net and for my own peace of mind.

Well, in all fairness, that isn't 'a' cancer institute, but THE cancer institute. NIH.

If you go to the website I listed, you will see links to supporting material.
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Whenever possible, check the source.

I ran across this site a while back. (when I was researching breast cancer, if I remember correctly.) I noted that the ONLY think that they published online about was abortion and it's links to breast cancer.

That seemed odd to me, so I looked up the doctors that were listed on their (then) Board of Directors.

Anyway, I just looked them all up for your perusal:


Joel Brind, Ph.D., President/Treasurer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Brind
Angela Lanfranchi, M.D., F.A.C.S., Vice President/Secretary
From her profile: Connecticut Right to Life is a non-profit organization dedicated to the protection of the dignity of life, as all life, from conception to end is sacred. In respecting the gift of life we honor God for human life is the creative action of God. As our Statement of Philosophy states that. http://www.zoominfo.com/search/Perso...nID=1196778839
John T. Bruchalski, M.D.
From his site: On August 3rd 2007, at a dinner in his honor during the National Meeting of the U.S. Catholic Diocesan Pro-Life Directors, Dr. John Bruchalski was awarded the "People of Life" Award by The Secretariate for Pro-Life activities of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in recognition of his outstanding leadership as a pro-life physician in founding Tepeyac Family Center and DIvine Mercy Care. The dinner was attended by nearly 150 individuals from all over the United States. Mrs. Susan Wills, the Associate Director for Education, read the citation honoring Dr. Bruchalski. http://www.tepeyacfamilycenter.com/news.asp
Mary L. Davenport, M.D., F.A.C.O.G.
From her profile: She is a member of the board of directors of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists and strictly follows the teachings of the Catholic Church in her practice of medicine. http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Daven..._21717632.aspx
Jeannette R. Joyce, B.F.A., R.T.(R)(M)
Radiologist- nothing of interest
Peter Mazolewski, M.D.
Nothing particularly interesting
William L. Toffler, M.D.
Has signed petitions against the Morning after pill and against 'life of the mother' exceptions: (I'm not phrasing that well.... here's the link: http://www.abortiontv.com/Lies%20&%2...rException.htm )

Now... I am NOT saying that this compilation of folks means that this group is entirely unreliable, but I AM saying that there is clearly and agenda here that makes theit trustworthiness suspect in my eyes.

Just a basic FYI...
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Whenever possible, check the source.

I ran across this site a while back. (when I was researching breast cancer, if I remember correctly.) I noted that the ONLY think that they published online about was abortion and it's links to breast cancer.

That seemed odd to me, so I looked up the doctors that were listed on their


Now... I am NOT saying that this compilation of folks means that this group is entirely unreliable, but I AM saying that there is clearly and agenda here that makes theit trustworthiness suspect in my eyes.

Just a basic FYI...
Yes, I realize most of the places where these studies are published have an agenda. The other side also has an agenda.
But looking at the information myself (about the maturation of breast cells and etcetera) I wish more research could be done. If any of this is true about how cells/tissue in breasts act, there could also be break throughs in subjects like infertility and so on that could be of great benefit to women's health.

My instincts tell me that induced miscarriage is unhealthy. Unnatural is unhealthy. I am not so right to life in this instance as "Whoa , wait a minute. Let's look for a grain of truth here."
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Yes, I realize most of the places where these studies are published have an agenda. The other side also has an agenda.
But looking at the information myself (about the maturation of breast cells and etcetera) I wish more research could be done. If any of this is true about how cells/tissue in breasts act, there could also be break throughs in subjects like infertility and so on that could be of great benefit to women's health.

My instincts tell me that induced miscarriage is unhealthy. Unnatural is unhealthy. I am not so right to life in this instance as "Whoa , wait a minute. Let's look for a grain of truth here."
I think that there would have to be a comparison done between women that spontaneously abort and those that have induced abortions. That, to me, would be the first step.
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Now... I am NOT saying that this compilation of folks means that this group is entirely unreliable, but I AM saying that there is clearly and agenda here that makes theit trustworthiness suspect in my eyes.

Just a basic FYI...
That's why I don't come down hard on the issue of abortion (and Global Warming, for that matter)...

You can't read anything that's objective...

And that won't happen until you take 5 pro-life scientists and 5 pro-choice scientists and put them in a room together to come to a definite conclusion and hear one side say "We were wrong."...
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I agree wholeheartedly.

I also think that the trees in my yard will come sit at my table for dinner sooner than THAT will happen...
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I agree wholeheartedly.

I also think that the trees in my yard will come sit at my table for dinner sooner than THAT will happen...
Don't feed them apples...

That's like cannabalism...
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Don't feed them apples...

That's like cannabalism...
Nah...

I was thinking of a woodpecker dish with catepillar sauce.

They'd like the irony...
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Nah...

I was thinking of a woodpecker dish with catepillar sauce.

They'd like the irony...
Niiiiice....

Just don't let them too close to the stove...
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