Exactly...

I think we'd all agree that throwing a cake out because it's not done properly or a self-guilt of calories is JUST a little bit different than throwing throwing out the result of a conception...

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Yes, thats precisely the reason i believe this

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"I decline to answer that question; it's too stupid"
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The true question is, when does life begin. Also, whose life is more important? The woman or the fetus?

That is very respectable. I am not being facetious, I really think it is great you think that way.

Very true, which is why I respect the woman's life over the possibility of another life. I guess it again, all depends on when you believe life begins.


I am curious why you think pro-choice would be equivalent to breeding oneself into extinction...

It is also funny to me that "conservatives" are anti-abortion, yet pro-death penalty. At least I am for both.

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Actually, in this debate I have seen people just that callous. Myself included.

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"The real question today is not when human life begins, but, 'What is the value of human life?' The abortionist who reassembles the arms and legs of a tiny baby to make sure all its parts have been torn from its mother's body can hardly doubt whether it is a human being." President Ronald Reagan, (1983)

Sorry..it may have been crude but I could not help quoting the "Gipper",a man this Independent voted for twice!

Scientists define this event as the start of a human organism -- of human life. The presence of a unique human DNA code also signals the start of a human person.The "compromise" the SC made in RvW was just wrong. Compromise can be a good thing but in that case,compromise was a form of denial and it was made for expediancy.Again..these abortion debates do little to change one's mind. Either one respects the sanctity of life at all stages or they do not.

Thank you,I am open minded on most issues. So much so that I often voted for "Democratic" candidates knowing full well that they supported "choice".Believe me..I still get flack from my Republican friends for "supposedly" supporting the right to murder innocent children! However..some of them know me better,they know that I have never been nor ever will be..a single issue voter.I have spent time and money fighting abortion.Together, with like minded people,our state successfully ended tax funded abortions.

There is no "possibility" of life in question here,life already exists within the womb. This should not be a simple question of mere "seniority"..human life is on the line!

It would be safe to say that most..not all..pro-choice people are liberals. Since they take that stance,one would assume they would be more open to termination of life than most conservatives would be. Therefore,in a sense..they unwittingly breed themselves into political extinction.


That's is true of "most" conservatives,I am anti-abortion and for the most part,anti-death penalty. But then again..I am neither a liberal or a conservative,I am both liberal and conservative and I would not wish this political dichotomy on anyone. I am forced to remain forever Independent.You see..I see the good and the bad in both philosophies.

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"Destiny must be shaped and not left to mere chance."..Spencer Collins

Amen to that.

I form my values first and let my political positions follow rather than deciding on my political positions first and then rationalizing my values accordingly. Conforming to a political ideology is merely conforming, and that is every bit as true for "liberals" (or especially as the more rigidly conformist like to call themselves "progressives") as it is "conservatives", the intolerance of both increasing along with people's doggedness in attaching themselves to the label.

The end product of both right wing and left wing political ideologies results in Nazi like behavior.

[quote=Spencer Collins;22096]"The real question today is not when human life begins, but, 'What is the value of human life?' The abortionist who reassembles the arms and legs of a tiny baby to make sure all its parts have been torn from its mother's body can hardly doubt whether it is a human being." President Ronald Reagan, (1983)

Actually, the compromise, in my view, probably saved many many lives.

Cancer is also life. We decide every day who lives and who dies. THousands of homeless will freeze to death this year, thousands of children will succumb to disease, in our own country. Yet we decide to fund other countries every year to help them maintain life. We decide that their sick and helpless are more important than our own.

I don't believe that life starts at conception. Life starts at birth. Most abortions are done, prior to being able to put the pieces back together and form anything that resembles human.

Ok, I can see that. I would also bet that many "conservatives", would become very pro-choice under the right circumstances. I am not even talking about rape, or possible death. It is easy to say that one is pro-life without ever being put in a position to make the choice.

You and I have similar political end, with different views. I am pro-choice, and pro-death penalty. I am fiscally conservative, while I am liberal with civil rights.

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I am part of the abortion is murder crowd.I am glad my state has the common sense and decency to ban tax payer funded abortions.

I believe the only exceptions to that should be if several pro-life doctors have confirmed that the woman would die if she went through with the pregnancy.I do not believe rape should be a reason to allow abortion,after all the child is not at fault for the actions of his father and most rape victimsdo not get an abortion.

Rape & Abortion

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So all of a sudden one murder is ok? If abortion is not legal, then why should there be caveats at all? Who is to say that the mothers life is more important than the unborn babies?

The mother is at fault and should be forced to live with a daily reminder of an act she had absolutely no control over?

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