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Old 01-29-2008, 05:49 PM
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Yeah well you only placate my views with an ounce of respect when I'm around to demand it.

You're a naughty condescending friend.
Boo!!! I am hardly condescending, sweet pea.
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Besides, most college campuses have health centers that give out free condoms. Why shouldn't pills be just as easily gotten?
Taxpayer cost...

I equally find it stupid when condoms are handed out, but the cost for pills is MUCH less than the condoms...

From the financial angle, it's the difference between night and day...
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You're focusing on the "whore" part when you shouldn't...Even if I said "responsible & intelligent", the same conclusion is reached (by me, at least)...
The whore part is the part that allows prochoicers to paint all prolifers as misogynistic losers.

Of course I'm gonna take issue with that. It's the one thing they have in their arsenal that irks me the most and people like you give them the ammunition.
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I think you and I can agree that no one should be having sex at that age unless they're in a longterm, committed relationship as compared to "just hooking up" or having multiple partners beause that's what they do on "Sex & the City"...

So my question is "What is the percentage of college women in the former situation as compared to the latter?"...

And my guess would be 10% tops...and I think I'm going a little high with that percentage...

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Welcome to the new "way of life" that young people are now considering acceptable...

Want another?...

Thirty years ago I was a student at an Alabama University. I can't recall ever meeting any virgins except the occasional freshman/woman. (Well, maybe the occasional science nerd.)

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"Morally neutral"?...
You may roll your eyes all wish but that does not change the fact that some decisions bear no moral consequence.

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If this story was about condoms, I'd feel the same way...
Of course you would...because condoms really just give control back to the boy and that's where it is supposed to be, no?

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There's 2 lines of thinking going on in this thread, and I'm getting sucked into the one that wasn't the overall point...

A girl's behavior is one point, but that wasn't the focus...This is...
No, you made it the focus when your justification for your "overall" point was "the slut, the slut, the slut". That eclipsed anything you might have had to say about the bolded part of your statement.

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You're focusing on the "whore" part when you shouldn't...Even if I said "responsible & intelligent", the same conclusion is reached (by me, at least)...

Government (my taxes) giving college women a break on pills
because of their sexual behavior(whethor or not you consider it "morally neutral" or not) is wrong IMO...
The problem lies in the fact that these are services that are traditionally provided to women in college because they are learning responsibility and control in a world dominated by people who feel perfectly comfortable calling them sluts for behaving in a way that any man would. The alternative is higher abortion rates and we don't want that now, do we?
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So someones irresponsibility should become our responsibility? I guess this could be effectively argued that way.Many precedents for this mutual responsibility already exist in our system.I guess the thing that bothers me is this..when you look at what young people spend their money on,birth control should be a priority and at $25.00,it's a better bargain than what they pay for acne medication!
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So someones irresponsibility should become our responsibility? I guess this could be effectively argued that way.Many precedents for this mutual responsibility already exist in our system.I guess the thing that bothers me is this..when you look at what young people spend their money on,birth control should be a priority and at $25.00,it's a better bargain than what they pay for acne medication!

I am a pragmatist. I would rather see us pay for birth control than for the alternative -- unplanned babies born to college dropouts.
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I am a pragmatist. I would rather see us pay for birth control than for the alternative -- unplanned babies born to college dropouts.
So you automatically negate "not having sex" as an alternative?...

And if you say "Yes", then please explain your term "unplanned"...

I don't imagine you think the girl was lying on the ground naked and a guy walked by with his pants down slipped and fell in her...

If they planned on having sex, then they should equally plan on accepting the consequences...
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I am a pragmatist. I would rather see us pay for birth control than for the alternative -- unplanned babies born to college dropouts.
I have seen this argument used before! The same logic was used with tax funded abortions. I am happy to report that my work along with thousands of others in my state,overturned tax funded abortions! At some point,personal responsibility must enter the picture.Sex is part of life and in life one needs to learn that responsibility and accountability are lessons we all must learn.Again..look at what young people consider priorities. Music,clothes,bar tabs,acne medication,video games and iPods. One would think they would be able to afford birth control pills at $25.00 a month! ...
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I have seen this argument used before! The same logic was used with tax funded abortions. I am happy to report that my work along with thousands of others in my state,overturned tax funded abortions! At some point,personal responsibility must enter the picture.Sex is part of life and in life one needs to learn that responsibility and accountability are lessons we all must learn.Again..look at what young people consider priorities. Music,clothes,bar tabs,acne medication,video games and iPods. One would think they would be able to afford birth control pills at $25.00 a month! ...
Agreed...

It's horrible when people think "Let's take the LIFE aspect out of it and look at those fetuses as unwanted money vacuums."...
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