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Default The TSA is a Waste of Money That Doesn't Save Lives and Might Actually Cost Them

The TSA is a Waste of Money That Doesn't Save Lives and Might Actually Cost Them
As a test, Homeland Security officials tried to sneak guns and bombs through TSA checkpoints. They succeeded almost every time.

been happening since its creation folks.
TSA is BS security theater, and unconstitutional search

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Few post-9/11 security measures have proven as enduring as the creation of the Transportation Security Administration, which effectively nationalized airport security and dramatically increased screening procedures on flights. In a matter of months, flights went from something you could arrive 30 minutes to an hour beforehand and be fine to something you needed to budget two hours for, what with the shoe removal and the liquids and the possibility of a random pat-down.

It's annoying, but it's also worse than annoying. The TSA's inefficiency isn't just aggravating and unnecessary; by pushing people to drive instead of fly, it's actively dangerous and costing lives. Less invasive private scanning would be considerably better.
Why the TSA falls short

The TSA is hard to evaluate largely because it's attempting to solve a non-problem. Despite some very notable cases, airplane hijackings and bombings are quite rare. There aren't that many attempts, and there are even fewer successes. That makes it hard to judge if the TSA is working properly — if no one tries to do a liquid-based attack, then we don't know if the 3-ounce liquid rule prevents such attacks.

So Homeland Security officials looking to evaluate the agency had a clever idea: They pretended to be terrorists, and tried to smuggle guns and bombs onto planes 70 different times. And 67 of those times, the Red Team succeeded. Their weapons and bombs were not confiscated, despite the TSA's lengthy screening process. That's a success rate of more than 95 percent.
It's easy to make too much of high failure rates like that. As security expert Bruce Schneier likes to note, such screenings don't have to be perfect; they just have to be good enough to make terrorists change their plans: "No terrorist is going to base his plot on getting a gun through airport security if there's a decent chance of getting caught, because the consequences of getting caught are too great."
But even Schneier says 95 percent was embarrassingly high, and probably not "good enough" for those purposes. If you're a prospective terrorist looking at that stat, you might think smuggling a gun onto a plane is worth a shot.
Schneier isn't a TSA defender by any means. He likes to note that there's basically zero evidence the agency has prevented any attacks. The TSA claims it won't provide examples of such cases due to national security, but given its history of bragging about lesser successes, that's a little tough to believe. For instance, the agency bragged plenty about catching Kevin Brown, an Army vet who tried to check pipe bomb-making materials. Brown wasn't going to blow up the plane — the unfinished materials were in his checked luggage — but if the TSA publicized that, why wouldn't it publicize catching someone who was trying to blow up the plane?

The Government Accountability Office is also skeptical that the TSA is stopping terrorists. It concluded in 2013 that there's no evidence the agency's SPOT program, which employed 2,800 as of the study and attempts to scan passengers for suspicious behavior, is at all effective. Only 14 percent of passenger flaggings by TSA officers led to a referral to law enforcement. Only 0.6 percent of TSA flaggings led to an arrest. None of those arrests were designated as terrorism-related.

What about the most loathed TSA rules: the shoe removal requirement, and the ban on all but the tiniest containers of liquids? There's never been any evidence that these are effective. Remember: We caught the people who tried to attack with their shoes and with liquid explosives, without these rules in place. Europe is gradually phasing out the liquid ban.
The TSA has never presented any evidence that the shoe ban is preventing attacks either. "Focusing on specific threats like shoe bombs or snow-globe bombs simply induces the bad guys to do something else," Schneier tells Vanity Fair's Charles Mann. You end up spending a lot on the screening and you haven’t reduced the total threat."
How TSA hassle kills people

The TSA doesn't save lives, but it probably ends them. One paper by economists Garrick Blalock, Vrinda Kadiyali, and Daniel Simon found that, controlling for other factors like weather and traffic, 9/11 provoked such a large decrease in air traffic and increase in driving that 327 more people died every month from road accidents. The effect dissipated over time, but the total death toll (up to 2,300) rivals that of the attacks themselves.
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That might be worth it for a system that we know for a fact prevents attacks. But there's no evidence the TSA does. Meanwhile, as Bloomberg's Adam Minter notes, a classified TSA study found that private screeners were more effective than TSA staff, and a 2011 report from the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee suggested that private screeners are considerably more efficient at processing passengers.
The solution is clear: Airports should kick out the TSA, hire (well-paid and unionized) private screeners, and simply ask people to go through normal metal detectors with their shoes on, their laptops in their bags, and all the liquids they desire. The increased risk would be negligible — and if it gets people to stop driving and start flying, it could save lives.
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VOX
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/t...=pocket-newtab
story's from 2016 but nothings changed.
And the solution is NOT hiring "private contractors" to do the same crap.


Israel runs the best terrorist screening if that's what we want we should use that.
If we really want to screen for bombs and gun powered etc people and luggage can go through devices that have sensitive detectors. there have been test done with MICE which detect the stuff that's nearly 100% effective.

But the issue really is the terror event (or accident) on planes is extremely low. and any the programs put in place are expensive overkill.
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"The macabre but exhaustive website planecrashinfo.com put the odds of being killed on a single airline flight at about
one in 4.7 million
across 78 major world airlines; among the airlines with the worst safety records, the odds rise to
one in 2 million."
http://www.businessweek.com/articles...ravel-too-safe
•A recent report from the National Safety Council put the lifetime odds of dying as a pedal cyclist at
1 in 4,982.
•on a motorcycle that number jumps up to
1 in 907 .
•as a pedestrian
1 in 749.
•And as the occupant of a car
1 in 415.

•the death risk for passengers of commercial airlines is
one in 45 million flights.
According to The New York Times, a traveler could fly every day for 123,000 years and still be safe. Although travel fatality statistics are represented in a variety of formats, commercial airlines are the safest mode of transport any way you look at it.
TSA is a unconstitutional, counter-productive, incompetent waste.
Steve Theodoropoulos and Henry Preston, are former air marshall whistle blowers who exposed:
•Piss poor management,
•supervisors drunk on the job
•TSA search quotas vs real search targets at airports
•TSA harassing Air Marshalls
•Air Marshalls on terror watch list
• TSA insiders who buck system harassed and their families
•proven discrimination against blacks, hispanics, gays within the air marshall service
• negative info passed to congress sat on
•and exposed info that shows some TSA classified info to Cover their hindquarters.

Add to that that
TSA has only made 1000's of arrest over weed and other minor items but ZERO terrorist.
They've needlessly harassed old ladies, children, the handicapped, and veterans while letting known terrorist fly unmolested.
Plus the TSA started unconstitutional search people cars in Airport parking lots, search people at train stations and on the US roads.
It should really be phase out.
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