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Default Re: Gina Haspel confirmed as CIA director, first woman to lead agency

Originally Posted by mr wonder View Post
Before 9/11 I had the knee jerk thought that torture was effective if not even though it's evil as well,
But If you were a professional interrogator at that time you would have known better, and known that it was illegal order.

"Former FBI Interrogator Jack Cloonan talks about the techniques he used while working in the elite Bin Laden unit. "

(BTW some people did resign some did refuse some did whistle blew on those who ... just "followed orders")
And this is where we disagree, kind of. I agree that torture is not effective in that the person being tortured will say almost anything to make it stop. However, I still don't buy that waterboarding is torture. We can disagree on this point and that is fine, but contend that waterboarding is not torture and that there was actionable intelligence that led to the capture of OBL from the waterboarding of KSM.

For every person you cite that disagree's, I could find just as many to support my contention.

So what? People have differing opinions, go figure.
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