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Old 12-11-2007, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dabateman View Post
Let me see if I get this right. You advocate that there is no discrimination in the marriage laws on the basis of orientation and gender. If that is the case, then why is it that couples of the same gender cannot get married? The law specifically excludes a whole segment of society while it continues to cater to heterosexual couples who marry for love. Because the laws specifically exclude an entire segment of society, they are indeed discriminatory. By using your logic, it would be fine to continue the poll tax and landowners only being able to vote.
No...voting is a right which grants the voter power to influence government. Marriage has no such direct affect on the shaping of society. With the poll tax and barring any but landowners from voting, you are placing economic restrictions on accessibility. Those unfair practices were also specifically aimed at disenfranchising based on race.

Marriage has no such discriminatory restriction. Regardless of race, creed, color, religion, sexual orientation, or gender, everyone has a right to marry a person of the opposite gender. No discrimination there.


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As far as your argumentation regarding the collection of data, we have yet to establish any real cause to collect information on the sexual habits of individuals who chose to take a flight in this country. If there isn't a cause to take it, then why bother? Isn't it a frivolous use of resources to collect information that is not pertinent to security? Republicans should be outraged at the waste of federal dollars we have going on here.
I didn't make any assertion was to whether it was legitimate or necessary. I simply stated that it was not discriminatory. We have yet to see where gathering that information in the course of gathering other information is anymore discriminatory toward homosexuals than any other group. I am stating that it is what it is. What it is not is discrimination.
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