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Predestined to be true to his word? His very nature preordains his truthfulness and he can and does change his mind.Man, like God, can change his mind "Free Will"....I have no problem with the fact that God has foreknowledge of the direction and choices we will make.These "choices" are not predestined,destiny is shaped both by God and Mankind and these "choices" have benefits and as Satan can personally testify to... consequences.
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Of course God can change His mind but it still does not mean that when God makes a promis we know that He will do exacly what He says He will do. God is good not because He has to be good, He does good because its His nature to do God.
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Predestination and Foreknowledge are not the same thing..  . |
Never said or indecated that it was.
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Originally Posted by Spencer Collins
The doctrine that God chooses some to be saved and that the others have absolutely no opportunity for salvation is often called EXTREME PREDESTINATION. It is also referred to as CALVINISM, or the following of the teachings of what some believe John Calvin taught, and others.
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Never said that either.
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"Predestination is taught in the bible, but the philosophy that God chooses who will be saved is false doctrine. The Bible teaches that saved people are predestined to GLORY, and that Christ rejecters are predestined to the LAKE of FIRE. Jesus Christ was predestined to die, etc. But never do we read of people predestined to be saved. God’s foreknowledge and sovereignty is never in question with true believers. Elect, chosen, called etc. does not necessarily refer to the saved, but more often Israel."
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Jesus did say that many are called but few are chosen. Who does the choosing, we or God?
You need to show from the scripture that God does not choose those whom will be saved. Did not Jesus said to the 12 disciples, when the rest left Him, did I not chose you and one of you have a demon? So that means that those who left and walk with Him no more were not chosen to be conformed to the image of His Son at that time....of course scriptures show that many who have died with out hople will be offered salvation at a much later time. Did not Jesus said, that no one can go to Him unless that Father which sent Him draws him? In other words it God who grants or gives the individual the ability to repent. It is all in God’s hands who repents and who does not.