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Old 11-24-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: Bush 'involved' in CIA leak case

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I honestly didn't know what else needed to be said.
Evidently, in the future I should concentrate on saying a bunch of things to repeat what the article explicitly refuted, so that others won't blindly assume that I have an opinion that the article explicitly refuted.
Does that about cover it? :
As I stated, I've read throughout the week one angle on the story..."Bush lied; Bush lied; Bush lied"...

Then you throw out an article on the same subject...

What was I to think?...mea culpa...

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An allegation nobody even made...
And the article directly refuted.
I admitted a defensive reaction...Will 3 Hail Marys help for my confession?...

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Just out of curiousity, is it possible to derive any conclusion about what DID happen instead of fixating comments on what has been explicitly acknowledged as something that did not happen?
Bush left that up to DA Fitzgerald to decide...I would think he would work off off those conclusions instead of the media outside with pitchforks...

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These guys aren't "any employee".
These are the people who typically have DAILY DIRECT CONTACT with the president and vice-president.
People who DIRECTLY ADVISE the president and vice-president.
I haven't seen one article that mentions that Armitage told Cheney what he did...I've seen no article that mentions Cheney knew of Armitage's admission even though it was mentioned in the very begining of the non-public testimony to Fitzgerald...HE knew the scoop more than Cheney...and I don't think he told anyone in the administration...

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Not omniscience, but if I found out that my secretary was involved in leaking secret company information, I'd be pretty pissed.
I would seek prosecution.
Not do my best to see that the pereson involved receives no real punishment.
here's the general public myth that you continue to believe...That the leaking was intentional and with evil purpose...

Your secretary may be involved with leaking information, but she was not involved in MALICIOUSLY leaking information...According to the law, that's the difference between night and day...

If it was found that your secretary did leak information but had no idea she was doing so and later publicly stated that she felt like a fool for doing so, you wouldn't prosecute the way you would if it was found out she had done so to undermine your company...

I also need to point out that Armitage LEFT the Administration before it was found out what happened...If he was still there, Bush may or may not have done something, but since he went into non-governmental service, it's kinda tough to throw him out of a position he already left...

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For somebody who has no problem with the president's ever expanding power, you sure like to pretend he's powerless...
There's no such thing as this expanding powers crap...It's a myth...get it out of your head...

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I have no doubt that somebody can get the wool pulled over their eyes.
But this IS NOT THE FIRST indication of Bush being incompetent and clueless.
"You're doing a heck of a job Brownie..."
Sitting in a classroom for several minutes after he was told the country was UNDER ATTACK...
the first one; agreed...

The second one...I'll let the principal of the school explain it to you...

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Michael Moore's film 'Fahrenheit 9/11' criticizes President Bush for listening to Sarasota second-graders read a story for nearly seven minutes after learning the nation was under attack on Sept. 11, 2001.
But Gwendolyn Tose'-Rigell, the principal at Emma E. Booker Elementary School, says Bush handled himself properly.

'I don't think anyone could have handled it better,' Tose'-Rigell told the Sarasota Herald-Tribune in a story published Wednesday. 'What would it have served if he had jumped out of his chair and ran out of the room?'
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When it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it's an incompetent president.
Tinfoil have a sale this week?...

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I'm sorry, but do you get that outing a CIA agent is a crime in this nation?
And who was indicted for it?...oh yeah...NO ONE...

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This has nothing to do with "partisan", except on the parts of some who feel it is easy to deflect the FACTS of the situation with incessant attempts to try to obfuscate the issue.
Okay...Let's try again...

Fact -

Number of people indicted for leaking the name of a CIA agent=0

Anything after that ain't facts...just speculation and wishful thinking...

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Valid criticism is made of Bush and his administration?
Why REFUTE the fact that it is valid criticism (which you don't really deny) when you can just complain that the other person is "partisan".
Or maybe they "hate Bush".
If you hate Bush for 45 reasons, go right ahead...

But DON'T make up an extra 45 to get people to hate him as much as you do...

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The topic is thoroughly avoided, and instead you've attacked the person pointing it out in a "passive aggressive" stance...
That must be it...
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