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Originally Posted by cnredd
Did I say anything otherwise?...
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How many months back can I dig to answer that question?
Cause your current attitude on the issue isn't the same one you've had from the start...
And honestly cnredd?
These days, just getting somebody to ACKNOWLEDGE IT IS TORTURE is a major victory in my book.
I have had my fill with people trying to obfuscate and deny the obvious. Trying to pull every sort of insane argumentative ploy to refuse to admit the truth, that
JUST GETTING the truth makes me happy.
I've set my standards pretty low in that regards...
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Would I waterboard to save my daughters (or any American children)? Yes!
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And on that, he and I are in COMPLETE AGREEMENT.
From the start, I have explicitly said that if there
IS a ticking bomb to save people from, then I am behind it.
But if there is no ticking bomb ...
If we just want to find out if maybe there could be one???
Then that is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT subject.
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The three terrorists that were waterboarded at Guantanamo were done so by military professionals. And it was done to save lives with America’s best interests at heart. Mine was a silly radio time filler in comparison. Its apples & hand grenades!
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
If "best interests" are all that matters, then why not employ that strategy here in the U.S.?
If the police officer has the "best interests" at heart, assaulting a person in custody shouldn't be a big deal, right? I mean, if we THINK that person has knowledge about the location of a kidnap victim who could be killed, we're in "best interests" territory, aren't we?
Heck. Let's make him a non-U.S. citizen to boot.
Slippery slope territory, and people are automatically giving in to thinking torture is "okay" if Americans are doing it, and we can claim "best interests"
WITH DETAILS KEPT CLASSIFIED SECRET...
Sends shivers down my spine to think our morality is so easily removed by fear.