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Old 09-16-2013, 01:05 PM
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Post Re: Iowa Democrats Pray for Abortion Rights

Originally Posted by Joe Shoe View Post
When every preacher starts saying the nutty things he does he does, then sure. That doesn't happen though, so no.
And here you have shifted the goal-posts.
Earlier, you were proclaiming "fringe" based on the number ( / donations / etc) of following for the pastor compared to the whole of Christianity.

Here, you are taking a much more subjective approach. I find this approach much more interesting in the context of what it will mean for future scenarios.
i.e. Christianity is moving more and more away from condemnation of gays. Thus, when enough of the Christian populace stops using gays as a punching bag, that will make those who do as the new "fringe".

Originally Posted by Joe Shoe View Post
Chicken-before-the-egg thing. Robertson made his millions back in the 70s and early 80s. He can still buy exposure; that doesn't mean many people generally let themselves be influenced by him. You're confusing "having a following" with the fact he can afford PR and exposure.

He is not "buying" his "PR and exposure".
He FOUNDED the platform he has consistently used for a while which provides him with "PR and exposure".
The CBN income is in the $700 million range. To use the right-wing phrase, Robertson "built that".
He is STILL making millions. More accurately approaching the "billions" range.

Originally Posted by Joe Shoe View Post
No, because he does't match MOST peoples' belief systems. What you're doing is like trying to indicate that Louis Farrakhan is mainstream simply because he has SOME following. No, he's not mainstream at all; he just has a lot of exposure for various reasons (mainly because the media likes a freak show sometimes.
Did I say "mainstream"?

It's funny how this started with me pointing out Robertson's significance, and saying that when I did point this out it gets "disregarded".
You actually argued against that statement with a strawman approach changing my words.
And now, YOU are the one who is disregarding Robertson's significance, which actually proves my original claim.

And my original point in this thread was actually how Robertson has a lot more significance than this example of "Iowa Democrats Pray for Abortion Rights".
But THEY get attention, when Robertson who does something worse and has a larger following gets disregarded.

At this stage, you haven't even a clue as to why I mentioned him in the first place. You keep trying to misrepresent my point to attack it.
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