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Originally Posted by Mikeyy
If you are asking if non believers have negative views about religious people. I would say that ignorance isn't based in your religious views. I have said that the people in the world that I have the most respect for by in large are religious in their own life's. But with or without religion these people would have been compelling to me. I have questions about religion. So I thought I would ask some of those questions and see if anyone has come up with a more compelling argument. Its difficult because many times you answer with scripture which isn't helpful for a non believer. It requires faith. Its a catch 22 situation. If you believe the bible has your answer. If you don't it is a useless argument.
You say "Joe climbed a mountain"
I say "How do you know he did?"
You say "Because he told me he did"
But you can't show me Joe or the mountain. You say you heard him but there was no sound. Or evidence. But you are so happy about it that you can't hardly stand it.
So where does the problem lie? Where is the disconnect? With my lack of faith?
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I absolutely agree with you about the disconnect. I guess I was just confused as to what exactly your point to this thread was, because it seems to me to be changing with your every post (I do not mean that as a putdown...I was simply looking for clarity and you have given it to me
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I have seen the way a lot of Christians handle these kinds of discussions, and I have to admit that most of the time they leave a lot to be desired. You are right, too often we Christians answer by quoting Scripture verses that are not helpful to a non-believer. I wonder if possibly this "language barrier" on both sides is what causes the division between the two. I've seen more than a few instances of people becoming frustrated when one person speaks broken English and is having a difficult time conveying his message. Could this be the same problem that exists between Christians and non- believers?
For me, it is like this:
My whole life I was blind and wanted to be able to see. One day, while at church Jesus came right up to me, rubbed some earth on my eyes and from that time on I have been able to see! Now, there have been some who have said of me that I was never actually blind in the first place, and others who have said that I really cannot see now. I have no way of proving either to anybody, nor do I feel it is my duty to do so. The best I can do is walk in the Light and hope that my life will as a result reflect that Light and convince others of it. In other words, the only proof I can offer you is the "living proof" of my walking in obediance to that which I say I believe.
That probably doesn't help much, does it?