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faithful_servant · #14 (**permalink**) 06-27-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

That is part of the reason Republicans are taking such a big hit lately.
Their unwillingness to realize that Americans are not willing to shell out HUGE dollar amounts.

Why do you think Bush pushed the exaggerated and inaccurate version of "WMDs" instead of simply saying "We're going to liberate Iraq."?
Cause he KNEW it wouldn't work.

Why do you think Rumsfield blocked post-Iraq-invasion analyses to see exactly what would be needed AFTER the invasion had succeeded?
Cause he KNEW Americans would balk if they knew the truth.

You may be willing to pay a couple trillion to "liberate" a group of people at the expense of higher Iraqi casualties, and over 4,000 U.S. soldiers, but the rest of us are viewing the situation with more pragmatism now that we know the truth...

It's a false presumption that it was ever NOT an issue...

This drivel may play well to the kool-aid drinking, republican fanatical, hugging Bush's leg base, but it's getting old and transparent to too many of the rest of us.

You are trying to fixate on part of the picture, while ignoring the whole.
Our children and grand-children are going to have to pay for the folly of this war, and you don't give a crap because of partisan party politics.

Like I said, there is a reason that Republicanism is on the way down. There is a reason why Republicans are losing political seats that should have been their slam dunk.
You're a living example of the reason.

How about we replace that word with "food" and ask you about programs to feed the poor and homeless?
If Democrats had asked for $1-2 trillion to feed Africa, would you say "yes

"?

Freedom means a LOT to me. I've served in the military to protect this country's freedom.
But at the same time, pragmatism exists.

Talk to me about it in 5-10 years.
Over and over again, the U.S. has a history of involving itself in the Middle East affairs, supporting figures only to have it bite them in the ass later.
Like we supported bin Laden against the Russians.
Or our support of Saddam.

Tell us how great of a job we did in 5-10 years, while at current time the Iraqi government is insisting that they don't have to pay us a dime cause we were never invited, and that they want us out.
Already, they are turning on us...

Keep telling me then, and if your party is still singing your tune then you'll still be asking why people aren't supporting Republicans.

All that blathering and you never answered the key question:

Why did the left suddenly get so fixated on the dollar cost of freeing people from oppression?

You diverted attention from this question and tried to turn the discussion a different direction to avoid it. How about dealing with it?? How about taking an honest look at exactly what it is you are saying? What I hear from the left is that our cheap gas is more important than the lives of millions of people. That our big screen TVs take precedence over the oppression and torture of millions of Iraqis. The left is great when it come to carrying signs and walking in circles, but ya'll stink up the place when it comes to actaully taking action to accomplish what your signs are asking for. When did freedom from oppression stop being so important to the left that they were unwilling to sacrifice for it? When did the concept of sacrifiing for the good of your fellow man become such an anathema to the left? C'mon, give a nice direct answer to my questions. Avoid the side-stepping, the attempts to reframe the questions and the general refusal to take this issue on directly and just ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!!