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Originally Posted by faithful_servant
Absolutely!!
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That is part of the reason Republicans are taking such a big hit lately.
Their unwillingness to realize that Americans are not willing to shell out HUGE dollar amounts.
Why do you think Bush pushed the exaggerated and inaccurate version of "WMDs" instead of simply saying "We're going to liberate Iraq."?
Cause he KNEW it wouldn't work.
Why do you think Rumsfield blocked post-Iraq-invasion analyses to see exactly what would be needed AFTER the invasion had succeeded?
Cause he KNEW Americans would balk if they knew the truth.
You may be willing to pay a couple trillion to "liberate" a group of people at the expense of higher Iraqi casualties, and over 4,000 U.S. soldiers, but the rest of us are viewing the situation with more pragmatism now that we know the truth...
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Originally Posted by faithful_servant
When did the idea that freedom had a price limit become so popular among the left?
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It's a false presumption that it was ever NOT an issue...
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Originally Posted by faithful_servant
For decades we've listened to a message from the left that we should be doing something to fight oppression and now when we do so, the issue becomes the money??
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This drivel may play well to the kool-aid drinking, republican fanatical, hugging Bush's leg base, but it's getting old and transparent to too many of the rest of us.
You are trying to fixate on part of the picture, while ignoring the whole.
Our children and grand-children are going to have to pay for the folly of this war, and you don't give a crap because of partisan party politics.
Like I said, there is a reason that Republicanism is on the way down. There is a reason why Republicans are losing political seats that should have been their slam dunk.
You're a living example of the reason.
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Originally Posted by Stinger
Does freedom mean so little to you that you would deny it people because it cost too much??
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How about we replace that word with "food" and ask you about programs to feed the poor and homeless?
If Democrats had asked for $1-2 trillion to feed Africa, would you say "yes
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Freedom means a LOT to me. I've served in the military to protect this country's freedom.
But at the same time, pragmatism exists.
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Originally Posted by faithful_servant
Don't get me wrong, Iraq is now at a place where they need to start paying some of their own bills, but they could not have gotten to that place w/o our help. The millions of Iraqis who lived in enforced squalor would still be living there, afraid for their lives, afraid to spreak out, afraid to fight against their oppressors if we hadn't stepped in.
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Talk to me about it in 5-10 years.
Over and over again, the U.S. has a history of involving itself in the Middle East affairs, supporting figures only to have it bite them in the ass later.
Like we supported bin Laden against the Russians.
Or our support of Saddam.
Tell us how great of a job we did in 5-10 years, while at current time the Iraqi government is insisting that they don't have to pay us a dime cause we were never invited, and that they want us out.
Already, they are turning on us...
Keep telling me then, and if your party is still singing your tune then you'll still be asking why people aren't supporting Republicans.