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Originally Posted by foundit66
In my experience, that is not the case.
I think the distinction can easily be made by simply substituting another, more neutral phrase in place of "Gay Agenda" to see how the argument is affected.
Typically, saying "Gay Agenda" IS considered an argument in and of itself.
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Why? What's wrong with using the proper English term?
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You just responded to my statement, with a question that is answered by my statement: It's harder to demonize gays wanting to serve their country in the military, so it's called a "gay agenda" instead.
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Well I disagree with the premise that is a "demonizing" but being allowed to serve openly in the military IS part of the "gay agenda", it IS one of the issue that make up that agenda.
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A better question to you would be why don't people directly address heterosexuality in the military as part of the "straight agenda"?
Sounds absurd, doesn't it...
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Feel free to but since it is not an issue............
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I have no idea how you could think that statement rational.
You can search through the "civil rights" section and see all sorts of discussions on topics that some people claim is part of the "gay agenda".
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OK
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I wouldn't be surprised if this thread is the first attempt on this board to actually discuss the issue of why people proclaim "gay agenda".
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Why not? Again do you deny there are specific political and social issues that are of particular concern to the supporters of homosexuality and there are certain societal norms and laws they would liked changed?
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Then why don't you hear that phrase?
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I have.
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Why don't you hear people proclaiming "This is part of the Parent Agenda"?
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I have.
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Is the labelling of an "anti-gay agenda" inaccurate?
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Perhaps, a "pro-heterosexual" agenda might be more the comparison. You know like supporting heterosexual marriage and not teaching homosexuality in elementary schools and kindergartens, that could certainly be considered a pro-heterosexual agenda.
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In which case, if that is all it is, it would be easy to rephrase it without affecting the argument.
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What do you object to about the proper phrasing?
Do you think there is a Union agenda when it comes to legislation? How about an environmental agenda of issues of concern?
What points, I'm reading where for some reason you object to the proper use of the word agenda.
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You aren't even trying to contradict them.
All you're doing is saying something else to side-track from the point. As dabateman said: [i]"I've heard many individuals reference the "gay agenda". The way it's slipped into articles, posts, and conversations, it seems to be spoken with a spit as if the words leave a bitter taste in the mouth of the speaker."
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Sounds more like you object to the other side stating thier side of it.
Oh well.