I'm sorry I meant HP. Different place. I find that these forums are like little families. Some people are full of crap and some aren't. Just like in a family. But if you are part of my family you can be full of crap and I will accept you. There are people on other sites that think forums like these are some kind of video game. You go around and shoot as many people down as you can then move on. There are plenty of forums like that. But if we at least treat each other like an extended family member, we are less likely to be rude. Thats a good forum IMHO.