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Originally Posted by mlurp
No I want them to obey the laws. Did you miss that too? I think any citizen should have the right to earn a decent living and be educated as far as they can go. Like after WWII we grew greatly because of the free education offered to service members.
My idea for the 20 million or more is allow them to join the Military, take the time to teach them English. Then basic and AIT (Advanced Infantry training) or what ever MOS they might need filled. And serve in our Military (maybe at a lower rate of pay only because of the status and our great costs already) And once they have served they become citizens which is another way they jump the line. Plus they then have the GI Bill to learn an education for better jobs than a meat packing plant.
I was referring to what is behind this mess, the wealthy and their goals of bringing American to it knees in the job market place. Opinions are nice to have. But knowing th ereal resons behind any issues is much better.
Look you want to debate and I have said what I want to on the subject. I need not continue with going back and forth when I have said all I can on the issue at htis time. We are a country of laws! So enforce them. Like th estory on the 4 meat packing plants that were raided in the last month. Th epay scale is so low that even th eAmericans havea hard time making ends meet. Th eMexicans live in cheap hotels buched togeter to save a dollar, which leaves this country. So again they pay no taxes and take from our society in so many ways. Why not find a solution and stop th emany new ones from coming. Let them instead get their govt. t increase jobs and pay a proper wage. While in Cancun before my wife died we spoke to many Mexicans. At the resorts some got $3.00 a day in wages. Is that right?
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Okay, let's see what we agree on. We agree on the fact that the border needs to be closed "pronto". We agree on the fact that the illegals who are here, are here because the government (pressured by greedy corporate America) has allowed them to be here, because they work for low wages, keeping corporations profitable. We also agree that this fact is what drives down wages for legal residents and Americans.
What we don't agree on. I don't think it would be fair to require anyone to risk their life for a country that does not want them. But, most of them would be desperate enough to accept instead of going back to their country which affords them no possibilities. Of course, it would not be a first. In the Vietnam war, legal residents were drafted first and given the option of fighting for this country, or returning to their own.
Economist don't agree on you regarding the economic burden of illegals, as figures show that they provide a net contribution to the GDP.
Yes, wages in Mexico are probably that low, but with the exchange rate and the price difference, there is no comparison.