[quote=Blue Dog;21640]Again you are presenting nothing but opinion.[/QUOTE
Nope... the counsel of Nicea is fact...
and the ark... fact...
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Yet, you DEMAND to control and direct the direction in which you want to steer a supposed coherent debate about the validity of the Holy Bible.
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It is not a debate. If it were a debate you would have been able to make a compelling argument. Thus far all you have said... repeatedly... is "It is so because it says so"...
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You absurdly claim that the information contained in the pages of the scriptures are nothing but lies, you FALSELY state there is no time frame given for the impending doom of the Kingdom of Israel, and yet the time frame was made "explicit" to come within that generation, and at a time when the Old Laws would be made non effective and you somehow come to reason that because many other kingdoms have fallen demonstrates the fact of Israel falling as common place, the other kingdoms that fell were not prophesied to fall within a certain time as was the nation of Israel.
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I am not claiming that all the information is false. I am claiming that many of the stories are not true, but then again, many people would see them as parables that teach a lesson. I am saying that for you to say that everything within that book is divinely inspired, you need proof. ESPECIALLY if you are going to claim that someone elses religion is false.
Its very easy to tear apart your supposed vast superior intellect and expose you as the "less informed" individual that you are instead of the pompous very intelligent individual that you "claim" you are.
Well, I have yet to claim that I am very intelligent. I am very rarely "pompous". I am glad that you are now telling lies and judging... very christian.
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As still, blah, blah, you address none of "your" claims of falsehood, as you produce no proof, to back up your spinning.
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What spinning? Look up Counsel of Nicea, look up scientific proof of ark... I don't have to spin anything... the history is there.
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Typical Pseudo Liberal that expects or demands that others take care of his/her every life need, because apparently they lack the ability to address these concerns on their own?
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I am far more of a moderate. I have liberal views on American rights, could care less about the rest of the world... and am very conservative when it comes to legal and fiscal issues.
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Your ignorance is made paramount by the your demands, to control, things that are beyond your control.
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What are you talking about? You made a statement. I challenged you to back up that statement... you jumped into attack mode. If that shows anyones ignorance it is yours. Your inability to have a debate negates the possibility of this being a debate. Christ you are hebitudinous.
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By what authority do you demand the very book book that you accuse of being false be dismissed as evidence?
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Because that was the original challenge. Which you have dodged and ducked.
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Do you fear the truth found within its pages
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No one has ever proven any of it to be true...
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Do you expect others to accept your demands simply because you demand them, if so this is another liberal trait of ignorance.
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I have not made a demand. I posed a challenge.
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What are you going to do falsely accuse and talk others to come to your world view of secularism, without backing up your words with facts and deeds?
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Who is trying to convert anyone? You said Jews are liars because your book says so... I said that in order for your OPINION to hold any weight you must be able to prove that your book is true. I can prove that WWI, WWII, and Vietnam happened because there are hundreds upon hundreds of sources that will attest to that. Yet there is only one source that can corroborate your bible, and that is the bible itself.
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You do nothing but produce a good belly laugh, a much needed one at that.
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Ok. Instead of laughing maybe you should be trying to accept the challenge.
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As again your childish pranks that are parroted from some secular Prof that does not have the ability to make it in the real world, and decides they are a legend in their own mind, does not work, in the communist fashion that you wish to impose them upon others.
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ok, make that a coherent thought and get back to me.
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It no wonder that today's education systems are producing graduates that can barely read and write, if this is best that you have, as you have failed to defend what you believe and expect others to do all the leg work in YOUR DEFENSE?
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You are laughing at what I believe... you have NO idea what I believe. My beliefs have only come up in your mind. The subject is what millions of Jews believe. In that I have had to defend nothing because you have been unable to say anything incriminating against them except, "because I say so". If there were a court case you would be held in contempt for wasting time.
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As I said before, it best that you hit the educational books and find a few facts out for yourself, instead of parroting the ignorance of others. BD
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Ok, first you say that education in this country is bad, now you suggest I use the books that are used in schools to educate myself? THE ONLY BOOKS that will support your position are based on the bible. I have not parroted anything... I pointed out a little historical fact... and then I asked you a question... the same one... over and over... which you have failed to answer.
I can't even laugh at you, I feel too bad for you. I almost feel like disproving your ability to think is similar to shooting retarded fish in a 5 gallon bucket with a minigun.
So, without using the bible, I challenge you to prove that the bible is absolute truth. I am sure you will answer with some drawn out post about "my beliefs", and how "pompous" I am... but maybe you will take the time to answer the question posed too...