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Old 03-10-2008, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: Who Is A True Jew?

I actually first questioned whether or not you believed them to be divinely inspired, I do not believe them to be so.

My opinion is also that regardless of what they bible says, if Jews do not believe in the New Testament, they are still True Jews.

I do not believe I ever said that YOU believe the Old Testament is not divinely inspired. I think you just plucked that out of thin air actually.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dog View Post
And then again you declare that the Jews should have a right to worship how they wish and that they were preordained to KILL the Son of God. But, it is the scriptures that declare that man is made in the image of God due to their free will actions in determining right from wrong (Genesis 3:22), "And the Lord God said, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil, and now least he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever." My head is still spinning from your "NON-CIRCULAR REASONING".
Well, reason this out. Had the Jews not crucified Jesus, would there be Christianity today? The answer is no. Jesus died as a martyr for his beliefs. Again, this is going by the bible. His martyrdom gained popularity. A little later, some politicians saw how easily controlled the masses were by the religions, and decided to "help" organize, and control it... welcome to the beginnings of Christianity

Your next line made me giggle a little. Faith comes first from thought. So what you or I think, is exactly what gives the supposed word of god it's power to create "doctrine". If I tell you you will be killed if you eat cotton candy will you believe it? I should hope not, yet if it was in the bible, I am sure it would be on your top ten do not eat list.

They bible is never divinely inspired. However, that does not mean that in a debate with someone who bases pretty much all their thought(at least in this matter) on that book, I cannot look to that book as a point of reference. I can also look into the teachings from that book that have been passed down. The prjudices of one that have been passed down into the interpretations of said book.

Well, the last thing is, why is your bible the "truth"? Now, you obviously cannot use the bible to prove itself. That would mean I could use the book "It" by Stephen King to prove that there are absolutely clowns that live in sewers and can come up through faucets in your bathroom. It says so in the book, so it must be true, and there are stories in the book to support it. No.

Interesting tidbit... the new and old testaments are two very seperate books, that were voted on to be put together. If it was divinely inspired, why did the vote need to take place at all?
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