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Old 02-19-2008, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Obama's wife now proud

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Originally Posted by cnredd View Post
I could go through the events, but you'll just tut-tut them off..."Mister Gorbechev...Tear down this wall!" are just words after all...
We should be very proud of Gorbechev. I know I am.

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Hubble telescopes,
An international effort.

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leading the tsunami aid,
Another international effort.

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liberating millions of people in places like Kosovo,
An action that the Republicans were against. We weren't united behind that effort.

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Iraq
We cannot overcome the negatives that are associated with this war.
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and the Soviet satellites,
Which were freed by Gorbachev and is polices, not the policies of Reagan.

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and even the very fact that every time a new official gets elected into office there's a complete lack of tanks rolling through the streets...
This is nothing new. Nothing unique.
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They don't mean a thing to you(and Michelle Obama)?...
Sure, there is always some basic pride, but she said "really proud". You have yet to present something that should make us really proud. The items that you have pointed out were a given, a continuation of the same traditions, or the actions of a foreign government.

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I'm proud of this country every friggin' day for the things you're taking for granted...Try typing what you just did in a few other countries and see how quickly you land in jail...
I don't take it for granted, but there is no reason to feel really proud. Pride clouds judgment and prevents one from keeping their eyes on the horizon. Pride covers a multitude of sins.

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This woman went to Harvard and held multiple high-paying jobs throughout her "adult life" in a country that gave her the opportunity to succeed...
The woman would have had the same opportunity in virtually every Western country. Why is this unique? We should be proud for our uniqueness.

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But there's nothing to be proud of...
Nothing yet...
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