Originally Posted by galenrox
We shouldn't attack Iran, it just should not happen. Whether or not Iranians want democracy is none of our concern, that's an issue they can deal with on their own. If Israel is incapable of protecting itself from Iran, which is something I keenly doubt, then we'll give them the help they need, and I don't see any problem in blowing up wherever they've got nuclear capabilities, and if they build them back we'll just blow them up again.
Point being that although we must be careful in making sure our interests are preserved through our interactions with Iran, we've got to get out of this military industrial complex as we'll never remember what our military actually exists for until we stop manufacturing threats out of incompetent enemies.
Oh, so you agreed with giving up Poland to Hitler?
In the Wikipedia entry, "Causes of World War II."
In the Munich Agreement of September 30, 1938, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain and French leaders appeased Hitler. The conferring powers allowed Germany to move troops into the region and incorporate it into the Reich "for the sake of peace." In exchange for this, Hitler gave his word that Germany would make no further territorial claims in Europe. Czechoslovakia, which at had already mobilized over one million troops and was prepared to fight, was not allowed to participate in the conference. When the French and British negotiators informed the Czecho-slovak representatives about the agreement, and that if Czechoslovakia would not accept it, France and Britain would consider Czechoslovakia to be responsible for war, President Edvard Beneš capitulated. Germany took the Sudetenland.
In March 1939, breaking the Munich Agreement, German troops invaded Prague and with the Slovaks declaring independence, the country of Czechoslovakia disappeared. The entire ordeal ended the French and British policy of appeasement and enabled Germany to grow stronger in Europe.
As far as our current situation in Iraq, consider this Winston Churchill quote:
"If you are going through hell, keep going."
And for some more things to think about as a prelude to embarking on a path of appeasement which would virtually guarantee war with Islam, and a much larger war than the one you currently imagine, please think about this Churchill quote:
"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half."
And if you are searching for a way to prevent future aggression by our enemies and would-be foes, compare this
wisdom to what might be discerned from Ron Paul's ideology:
"If you rub it in, both at home and abroad, that you are ready for instant war, with every unit of your strength in the first line and waiting to be first in, and hit your enemy in the belly and kick him when he is down, and boil your prisoners in oil (if you take any), and torture his women and children, then people will keep clear of you."
--John Arbuthnot Fisher, British Admiral 1841-1920
Anyone who doubts the wisdom of this advice should turn the tables and they will soon realize that this is exactly the position the Iranians have taken with regard to US. They have some of us feeling desperate
to steer clear of Iran.